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To: (Bob) Zumbrunnen who wrote (2816)4/19/2002 8:49:52 PM
From: mmmary  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
OT: Bob, wrong again

That is good advice but you need to heed it yourself. You were blasting SI, blasting IHUB. You told me that if only you knew how horrible ihub was before you signed on, you wouldn't have signed on. If only you knew what evil plans matt and tony had for it, you would have run. You ran back to ihub knowing exactly what they were about.

YOu may be polite in this post about SI but that's not the way you always refer to them. You are posting here on SI so of course you'll be polite. You're also always talking about their demise.

Tony is not in the message board biz. You, RB, Yahoo, SI, Agora... are. You guys make money from the site directly, or at least try to. Yes, Tony makes money getting the message out but he mainly uses his club, press releases and email to get people to his site to see the report. Apples and oranges.

I can understand Tony's point of view though I most certainly don't speak for him. You want people to think you are an ethical person against stock scams and promoters. Then you go into business with two promoter/hypesters, tony and matt, on a site that is basically based on fraudulent stock promotion, a bunch of hypesters saying "to the mooooon!" ripping investors off. You knew back then that infamous FG brought the original traffic and all his promoter buddies to the site besides the funder. You knew that matt directly recruited all the promoters yet you go over there. You saw their business plan and knew exactly what they planned to do, stock promotion, yet you come back. You keep saying "but I'm here to clean it up, change it." Talk all you like. Talk is cheap. The promoters are the traffic, the money over there. You wanted "bashers" to get more traffic, more money, help your horrible reputation, but they must bow down to the promoters and not ruffle their feathers. I personally feel you just want to own a stock message board a little like SI because you were let go for whatever reason. You want to be the king of the boards again. All in all I don't think helping out ihub is an ethical thing to do. You are receiving money from promoters, blood money from innocent investors. It's like you bought into a drug dealing business and you state you're gonna clean it up and just sell legal drugs but that doesn't pay the bills so you have to turn a blind eye to selling the illegal drugs out the back if not the front door. You and matt are like good cop, bad cop, honest negative scam buster vs. pump and dumper extraordinaire. Matt tells all the promoters they can have basher free zones as he hates bashers. Then he tells the bashers they can have promoter free zones where they can post the negative truths as he hates promoters. Actions speak louder than words. Look at where you are working, Bob. Look at your partner. Look at where the money is coming from. You dont' see me working in a boiler room trying to stop stock fraud.



To: (Bob) Zumbrunnen who wrote (2816)4/21/2002 11:08:17 PM
From: Digrdug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
"It'll take a long time to rid itself of its prior reputation"

One of the best lessons that I ever heard, from one of my mentors, was "it is easy to build a good reputation but almost impossible to undo a bad one".

I forgot about this and went personally bankrupt trying to turn a company around!