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To: LindyBill who wrote (26635)4/23/2002 4:48:36 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Zubaydah: al Qaeda had 'dirty bomb' know-how

From Jamie McIntyre
CNN Washington Bureau
April 22, 2002 Posted: 9:50 PM EDT (0150 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The most senior al Qaeda leader in U.S. custody has told interrogators the terrorist organization was interested in producing a radiological weapon, or "dirty bomb," and knew how to do it, a U.S. official told CNN Monday.

The admission is said to have come from Abu Zubaydah, who was captured and wounded in Pakistan April 1.

But the official cautioned the United States remains highly skeptical of the credibility of Zubaydah, whom government officials said also was a source for an FBI warning issued Friday that al Qaeda members discussed plans for attacking banks and other financial institutions, particularly in the northeastern United States.

And U.S. officials have repeatedly said publicly al Qaeda was believed to be seeking weapons of mass destruction, including chemical, biological and radiological weapons, but so far no evidence has been found they have succeeded.

In March 19 testimony before Congress, CIA Director George Tenet said, "Terrorist groups worldwide have ready access to information on chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons through open sources.

"Documents recovered from al Qaeda facilities in Afghanistan show bin Laden was pursuing a sophisticated biological weapons research program," Tenet said.

"We also believe that bin Laden was seeking to acquire or develop a nuclear device. Al Qaeda may be pursuing a radioactive dispersal device, what some call a 'dirty bomb.'"

U.S. officials said they were getting information from Zubaydah and checking it out.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Monday he did not know whether Zubaydah -- al Qaeda's head of operations and recruiting -- told the truth about the bank threats.

"I have no idea if it was true or a lie or if he gave it. I'm not going to be reporting on what Abu Zubaydah does or doesn't do from day to day," he said.

Friday's FBI warning was prompted "out of an abundance of caution," the bureau said.

Rumsfeld did confirm that Zubaydah, who received three gunshot wounds when he was captured, has not been moved from the undisclosed location where he is being held.

cnn.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (26635)4/23/2002 5:52:50 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi LindyBill; Re heavy, bulky and hot. The elite military forces of the world have been outfitted with equipment with that description, with the addition of a few more adjectives like "expensive", "effective", and "difficult to learn to use" since Homer. I doubt it will change much in the future.

But certainly soldiers are outfitted with gear nowadays that's less heavy, bulky and hot than what obtained in the Bronze Era. Bronze is relatively soft, so it took thick pieces to make effective armor. Soldiers traditionally didn't put it on until they were within sight of the enemy. It was so heavy that most of the members of an army were detailed to carry it around for the fighters who would put it on at the very last possible minute.

The middle ages, with steel armor wasn't a hell of a lot better. They had to breed special horses to carry all that metal around. If a guy fell down, he couldn't get back up.

And of course anyone who's picked up an unsporterized Springfield can attest to how much the weight the soldiers in WW1 carried around.

-- Carl



To: LindyBill who wrote (26635)4/23/2002 7:33:26 AM
From: jttmab  Respond to of 281500
 
I can guarantee you three things about this system. It will be

1) Heavy

2) Bulky

3) Hot


and ........

4) Expensive

You should sit in one of the design meetings...preferably in a back row. You want to be close to the rest rooms when the urge to vomit comes.

jttmab



To: LindyBill who wrote (26635)4/23/2002 1:28:53 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
Yes.... it will be heavy.. But no heavier than carrying around a M-16, a PRC-25 or 77 (and associated batteries), a map case, thermal imager, binoculars, flak vest... etc..

Putting it all in one system would seem to make sense. And when this fuel cell technology is properly minaturized, they'll be able to replace the batteries and have a better power source.

And this will be deployed initially for the squad scouts and point men.. Not to each individual soldier.

Hawk