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To: frankw1900 who wrote (26801)	4/24/2002 6:14:58 AM
From: arun gera	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>Islamists are, like a lot of fascists, enemies of modernism. And science and all the things emblemized by the Nobels are the vanguard of modernism> Some Islamic scholars: Remember Avicenna users.erols.com newadvent.org And the origin of Algebra aug.edu

To: frankw1900 who wrote (26801)	4/24/2002 9:50:33 AM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Good NYT piece on missionaries for the New Caliphate in the UK. I'd also like to see the Times do some reporting on some of the radicalized Mosques in Brooklyn, and Jersey City. nytimes.com Bobby asks, "For God's sake who do I belong to?" Mr. Bakri answers: "You belong to the Muslim umma, brothers. Come on in." Mr. Bakri heads Al Muhajiroun, or The Emigrants, which he calls an Islamic ideological party. Some say he is all bombast and bluff, others that he manipulates young men into jihad. Whatever the truth, he indisputably transforms anomic young Muslims into Islamists. Conjuring Up the Caliphate His followers see recreating the caliphate — the era of Islam's ascendancy after the death of Muhammad in the eighth century — as the answer to Muslims', and the world's, problems. They often sound like nothing so much as young Marxists of another era. Islam "will guarantee every single individual the bare necessities of food, clothing, shelter," says Muhammed Ali, a 21-year-old information technology specialist of slight build and febrile mien. In Britain, as everywhere, Islam has ribboned into countless sects and schools that often spend as much time attacking one another as attracting fresh recruits. The Birmingham Central Mosque is crowded with young people raised as indifferent Muslims who have now turned to a Taliban-style Islam that provides a way of life as much as a religion. The women cover not just their heads, but their faces; the long-bearded men no longer allow their children to be photographed