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To: russet who wrote (13872)5/4/2002 12:14:34 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 81402
 
russett, again many thanks for your lengthy posts and your considered opinion.

Let me say that I don't know whether the French have a hidden agenda or they don't but I certainly do not have. I am seriously interested in understanding what took place and why. Although I'm not a pilot or an engineer I also have a scientific training and I enjoy trying to solve riddles, particularly scientific ones.

Let me say this. From the beginning, when I saw all the events of 911, I kept asking myself "Who does all this benefit?", "Who has the skill to do such things?", "Is someone trying to make trouble for someone?"

And, now let me answer those questions for you in one word --- Israel. And, in retrospect I can see that my intuitive feeling was completely correct. The bringing in of the US into Israel's war against "terrorism" unites the US and Israel in common cause against whoever.

I also accept that both the US and Israel have different agendas. Israel has an insoluble, existential problem with only one means of solving it --- war. At this point no peaceful solution can be seriously entertained. In fact, it is Sharon's stated aim to push all the Palestinians into Jordan. He certainly will not give up one square inch of "occupied" territory.

The US, for political and economic reasons, has to be involved in Central Asia and Afghanistan is like the middle of the world chessboard. I see in Afghanistan not only the attraction of the "stan" oilfields but also it is the spot where Islam, China and Russia meet. It has to be the place of future international conflict. For this reason, the US simply has to have a military and political presence there.

It is perfectly clear that in no way does 911 benefit Al Qaeda or any Muslim organization. In fact, the status of Muslims, throughout the world, and Islam, generally, has been seriously threatened and damaged by 911 and the subsequent events. So it is also clear to me that what took place on 911 was an event similar to the "attack" on the US destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin which started the Vietnam war, Hitler's burning of the Reichstad in order to incriminate the Jews, or Pearl Harbour, which brought a reluctant US into WWII.

In view of all this it is apparent that I have a bias when I examine the details of what actually took place. I am, in fact, looking for argument or evidence which supports my hypothesis. Nevertheless, I am still satisfied that I can see no remains of an airliner in the pictures of the Pentagon.

I would also like to say, and this is not because you are an American and this is an American forum, that, notwithstanding my view that 911 was in fact a conspiracy, I would rather live in a world run by the US than by Islam, China or Russia. In the circumstances, I have to accept that 911 was considered tactically necessary by the US, or those who run it, to maintain its world status and economic power. I just hope that the intransigence of Israel and the extraordinary partisanship of the US administration towards Israel does not bring us into a world war



To: russet who wrote (13872)5/4/2002 2:38:41 PM
From: Yorikke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81402
 
Russett, You make to much sense, you should see a docktor. Your nonmillenium mentality mitigates the marvelous machinations of the merciless monsters of the military machine.

I agree with completely about the french....their govenments have caused every major fk-up in the world in the last 150 years. And I don't particularly like their wine either.

Perhaps you would care to comment on the real plot, the one revealed to us in reruns of Rod Serlings timeless essays on the plots to control the world. The fact that they are ignored, or viewed only as entertainment is proof that there is fact deeply detailed in the supposed fiction.

Bye the way, I'm also of the opinion that there is some serious weakness in the gold stock prices. Anyone holding gold stocks with an investment perspective shorter than hold to death should be looking carefully at the movements in the next weeks. How do I know this? I believe that Rod spoke of this in program 15 of the series. I have a book that says as much.

hope you are enjoying the spring......surfs up on the south shores....plenty good juice brah!



To: russet who wrote (13872)5/6/2002 7:46:32 AM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 81402
 
<<I've seen what reinforced concrete and steel can do to flimsy aluminum especially when the aluminum has high momentum.>>

I worked for a major defense contractor. How can those conspiracy loons question the damage done by "flimsy aluminum" when that very material makes up the greatest part of missiles used against every possible target - air water or land based. Yes, there are conspiracies, there have been, & will government conspiracies, I must agree with you that this isn't one of those conspiracies.