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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14558)	5/12/2002 4:49:52 PM
From: hdl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

the others aren't third world and are financed by u s also- as stated in post you responded to. besides, it is condescending to have such low standards for third world. they also know better.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14558)	5/12/2002 9:07:39 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

What difference does it make that they are Third World countries anyway? Aren't there only one type of people in the world - do you think Third-Worlders are a lesser breed? Turkey and SA could be called "American colonies" at least as validly as Israel. Turkey is a member of NATO. Re. US aid to Turkey, I found the following link which quotes $13B up through 1987. Likely much higher by now - I noticed another link saying Clinton offered Turkey $1B in 1999. idis.gr Between 1946 and 1987, military and economic assistance has totaled over $13 billion to Turkey and $9 billion to Greece. From these amounts, $9 billion to Turkey and $5 billion to Greece have accounted for military aid and the rest has been economic assistance. We actually fought a war to protect SA. Below is a link on Gulf War costs. cnn.com First: U.S. casualties: 148 battle deaths, 145 nonbattle deaths Second:The U.S. Department of Defense has estimated the cost of the Gulf War at $61 billion; however, other sources say that number could be as high as $71 billion. The operation was financed by more than $53 billion pledged by countries around the world, most of which came from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States ($36 billion) and Germany and Japan ($16 billion). This doesn't cost the continuing costs of maintaining US forces in the region which I'm sure run to billions of dollars per year, perhaps tens of billions.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14558)	5/12/2002 11:14:45 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Re. Turkey - here's a timely post on that country by your buddy TM: To:Thomas M. who started this subject From: Thomas M. Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:32 AM Respond to of 315 Chomsky on Turkey: "We're supporting the most reactionary strains in Turkey. Like I say, I was just there, talking about these things. Popular support for opposing the military-run regime is overwhelming. We're supporting the military-run regime." globetrotter.berkeley.edu Surprisingly, Chomsky criticizes Turkey without even mentioning the occupation of Cyprus. Interesting given the amount of attention left-wingers like Chomsky give to Israel's occupation of Palestine. Hard to believe this is just an oversight.