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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (254642)	5/13/2002 11:37:39 AM
From: JDN	Respond to of 769670

Dear Emile: Your a tough person to argue against but I got a question. Its your lie number 3 response. How could JEWS be against GOD. The way I remember it Jesus was a JEW himself, in fact I believe he was a RABBI?? The problem was as I recall the jewish priests of the time had gotten pretty much out of touch with GOD and Jesus was fighting that trying to bring the Jewish people BACK to their beginnings. It wasnt until years after his Death and Resurrection that the world Christian even began. Now, the Jews that I know actually believe there was a Jesus, where they differ from us Christians is they believe he was just another prophet from God and not the SON of God. jdn

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (254642)	5/13/2002 12:50:59 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

By saying "most jews", or "most zionists" you reveal your antisemitic nature. Your whole focus on this thread is to slam Jews, that, imo, makes you a racists. Your nonsense close-minded arguments reek with hate. Your a Jew-hater, plain and simple.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (254642)	5/13/2002 1:17:40 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The World Has No Memory They forget, but we remember. In 1947 the United Nations voted to partition Palestine and to create two states between the Jordan and the Mediterranean: One, the Jewish State of Israel.The other, a homeland for Palestinian Arabs. The Zionist leadership, the acting government of the Yishuv, accepted the plan. In 1947, we affirmed our desire to live in peace, side by side with a Palestinian State. But the armies of nine Arab states came pouring over the borders, to extinguish the nascent state of Israel and to murder yet another million Jews.When a truce came, Egypt, Jordan and Syria had devoured the territory for the Palestinian Arab State. They forget, but we remember that thousands of Palestinian Arabs fled in the face of that Arab invasion. But when they reached the borders of Jordan and Egypt, they were not permitted to enter. Israel, tiny beleaguered Israel managed to absorb and settle millions of Jewish refugees from Europe and the Middle East. But the entire Arab League and all 26 Muslim nations, with all their oil-wealth, couldn't find room for their poor Palestinian brothers and sisters and left them to rot in squalid refugee camps, festering in hatred and rage. They forget, but we remember every time they came across our border to murder and to destroy. We remember 1948, 1967, and 1973. We remember the Olympics in Munich and the school in Maalot. And we remember that when Sadat came to Jerusalem, we dismantled settlements, and relocated whole cities, and gave Egypt back the entire Sinai, in return for peace. We remember Yitzchak Rabin and his dream. And we remember that his protégé, Ehud Barak went to Camp David and then to Taba, and offered, for the second time in 50 years, to create a Palestinian State, comprised of 97% of the West Bank and all of Gaza with sovereignty over half of Jerusalem including the Temple Mount, and $30 billion in world economic aid. And we remember the answer. They forget, but we remember, just months ago, a bomber in the Dolphinarium Disco in Tel Aviv killed 21 teens. And what did we do in retaliation, what did we hit? Nothing. We practiced restraint. And months later when another bomber destroyed Sbarro's Pizza and dozens more were killed. What was our retaliation? Nothing. We practiced restraint. And the Bat Mitzvah in Hadera and the mall in Netanya and the restaurants and cafes in Jerusalem and Afula and in Haifa -- we retaliated by destroying buildings. Empty buildings. Because we called them hours in advance of each mission, to warn them to evacuate. And then came Pesach. This year, the Angel of Death did not pass over. Whole families were murdered at the Seder table. But even now, do we bomb from the air, like America? Risk hitting hospitals and schools and embassies, like America did in Bosnia and Afghanistan? No. We send our kids through the alleyways and byways -- to face booby traps and snipers and mines. Tonight, your parents and grandparents, your Rabbis and teachers, your communities have gathered here in the thousands to testify that the whole world is wrong and Israel is right. And we will not apologize for doing what's right -- for defending our children and their dreams from murderers. We mourn for innocents, Palestinian and Israeli, who are caught in the struggle. We take no pleasure in the suffering of any human being -- we dip out wine from our cups -- but we will not apologize for taking steps to survive in that vicious corner of the world where, mesmerized by murder and blood, they dance and sing when their children blow themselves up. We will not apologize for demanding our land and our freedom and our security in this world. Jews no longer apologize for surviving.