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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (18986)	5/15/2002 12:08:59 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Maurice, I mention the word community and I'm labeled a socialist/communist by you and Oblomov. I'm astonished at your ability to jump to that conclusion. What I had in mind was more like retaining tax bases so potholes can get filled, water supplies be maintained and sewers provided for public health benefits. How you twisted my words to create your totalitarian nightmare is beyond my comprehension. My concern is that corporations, in their blind greed, will destroy the infrastructure they rely on to create wealth with their extraordinary short-sightedness and small minded determination that greed is the great achievement of mankind. I beg to differ. Both with the corporate grasping, and with your silly and childlike characterization of my concerns about community. Given their head, corporations would rape communities, much as Enron raped the California electric consumer over the last couple of years. From a base cost of $7 Billion for electricity in 1999, the state was forced to pay the "market" $27 Billion in both 2000 and 2001, helping to send the California economy into a tailspin. It isn't only the Left that is concerned about the criminal nature of this rape. This is the conflict I see, between raw-boned capitalists, bending the rules for sake of their own rapacious grasping, while leaving community twisting in the breeze. You don't have to be a socialist to see the basic injustice of this system of thievery. -Ray

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (18986)	5/15/2002 6:33:51 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 74559

I wish I could find a copy of a speech Milton Friedman gave last week when he was in town (Washington, D.C.) for the 25th anniversary of the Cato Institute. I will have to paraphrase the joke I liked. He said: If you buy something for yourself, paying for it with your own money, you care a great deal about what you select, and you also care about how much you spend. If you buy something for yourself, using someone else's money, you care about what you select, but you don't care about how much you spend. If you buy something for someone else, using your own money, you don't care very much about what you select, but you do care how much you spend. But if you buy something for someone else using someone else's money, you don't care what you select, and you don't care how much you spend. And that is government.