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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (18987)5/15/2002 12:57:09 AM
From: MechanicalMethod  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
But it is a community and I support you for calling it that.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (18987)5/16/2002 7:11:36 AM
From: Oblomov  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
"labeled a socialist/communist"?

Frankly, your claims that "capitalism... has no soul and does not care about human communities" are threadbare Marxian tenets. Whether this makes them socialist/communist or not is another matter. It is certainly an anti-capitalist viewpoint.

You speak of corporations, that "in their blind greed, will destroy the infrastructure". If the CEOs of these corporations are indeed "grasping", as you claim (I suppose this makes them different from the majority of the human race, that is blithely free of graspiness), then isn't this greed deliberate and sighted, rather than blind? In other words, these CEOs seek to enrich their shareholders. Under capitalism, it is the owners of the means of production who are rewarded (as Marx correctly pointed out). This is the type of community that capitalism nurtures.

Under capitalism, there are different winners and losers than under alternative economic systems. Just because capitalism does not reward the communities that you valorize does not mean that it does not care about human communities. Further, as a construct developed by humans, capitalism has as much soul as humans themselves.

My real question is, if you don't like capitalism, then what are you doing at an investment discussion website? Doesn't participation in capitalism make you complicit in the destruction of infrastructure and threat to community that you believe to be caused by capitalism?

"I'd like 100 shares of WMT, and a Molotov cocktail" -gg-



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (18987)5/16/2002 6:22:05 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Ray,
Problem is the governments seem to abet the process. (well maybe not when an election is due)
regards
Kastel Just slightly cynical ;o)