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To: Ilaine who wrote (30875)	5/27/2002 10:47:14 AM
From: DHE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Did you object to the fire bombings of German cities in WWII? Did you object to dropping the atomic bombs on Japanese cities? Just curious

To: Ilaine who wrote (30875)	5/27/2002 12:53:23 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If you can't see how morally wrong it is to kill people deliberately, other than combatants, then you are depraved. CB, you misjudge me....nobody hates war more than me...both for civilians and military. i have merely been pointing out that the israeli destruction of civilian homes is no new phenomena...in fact it is done regularly in war...all wars. as far as making war and being depraved goes...let me say that i find it much more depraved to take a solemn oath before God, "to protect and defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies enemies both foreign and domestic"...and then not only fail to perform that duty...but initiate actions that make it difficult or impossible for others who have taken the same oath to perform their duty willingly. uw

To: Ilaine who wrote (30875)	5/30/2002 12:31:52 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

CB, Thought you might be interested in this description of how the Palestinian "freedom fighters" "sought sanctuary" (to quote the British press) in the Church of the Nativity. Turns out it was quite premeditated, what a surprise, huh?: This week, senior Tanzim commander Abdullah Abu-Hadid revealed to Yediot Ahranot that the Palestinian seizure of the Church of the Nativity was well planned and premeditated. He said: "Some ran there out of panic, and there were others who had planned beforehand to enter the church... The idea was to enter the church in order to create international pressure on Israel... We knew beforehand that there was two years worth of food for 50 monks. Oil, beans, rice, olives. Good bathrooms and the largest wells in old Bethlehem. You didn't need electricity because there were candles. In the yard they planted vegetables. Everything was there." honestreporting.com The Israeli papers also reported that they found plenty of food in the church when they entered, contrary to all the reports of starvation. Of course, it's always possible that the gunmen forced the civilians in the church to go hungry. Thought you'd like to know.