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To: combjelly who wrote (80888)	5/29/2002 1:08:02 AM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Combelly, Re: "For what it is worth, "takeanother" is actually two words..." "Brilliant" catch ... You're a "genius". I must have "touched" a "sensitive spot" ??!! <ggg> Make It So, Yousef

To: combjelly who wrote (80888)	5/29/2002 1:37:16 AM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 275872

"How many 193nm scanners do you have in Dresden?" Probably the same number as Intel has in their production fabs. Your point? -- Sorry to butt in on youse guyz fun here, but the threads hardly ever talk process, and I'm not really interested in those "My Thing Is Bigger Than Your Thing" discussions, so I can't help but to butt in. The "point" that Yousef is so..... (cough) diplomatically making, is that 193nm steppers will almost certainly be required for 90nm in order to avoid Phase Shift Masking, and will Certainly be required for 65nm. So if AMD is planning those developments with UMC, then UMC better have those steppers..... Or get them..... And as far as having the same number as intel, I don't think so. Has everyone forgotten (or maybe didn't know), that intel in the mid - 90's pumped millions of dollars into a subsidiary of "Silicon Valley Group" inc. This mini-company was the first Manufacturer to develop a "Step and Scan Stepper, "MIcraScan". Guess who got the best deals on those Steppers? So what? well, this subsidiary was purchased last year, by ASML. You know..... remember That deal that intel sent Craig Barrett last year to lobby Congress for? Neither do most people. Never mind, Intel was probably just "being nice" to ASML, eh? No doubt "SVGL's" latest technology is being incorporated into ASML's leading edge 193nm "TwinScan Stepper". I hear it has twice the throughput of the 248nm, and the availability is VERY VERY limited. Who do you think is first in line for 193nm Steppers..... again. Give ya a hint, it ain't AMD. Semi