To: Richnorth who wrote (15962 ) 5/31/2002 5:44:55 PM From: Nadine Carroll Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27666 The first few suicides were on civilians, it was true. But later on, the Palestinians got wiser and focused on targets related to Israeli military personnel and installations Like the "military" ice cream parlor that they blew up in Petach Tikva two days ago, killing an eighteen-month old baby and her 56 year old grandmother? Or the three high school students shot playing basketball in their schoolyard in Itamar, also two days ago? You'll notice I don't have to dig very far into the past to find such unmilitary examples. But I can keeping going, let's see, there were those buses in Haifa and Jerusalem, the Arab-owned Matza restaurant in Haifa, the crowd of ultra-orthodox women and children in Jerusalem, the Moment cafe in Tel Aviv, the seder in Netanya, various pizzarias...no soldiers or military equipment at any of these sites.The Kurds were fighting for Iran and/or themselves when they were gassed. The Kurds were therefore considered enemies of Iraq. And this is different from the Palestinian situation in exactly which way, pray tell? Seems to me that the Kurds have just been unfortunate in picking an enemy from whom the world expects nothing but barbarism, while the Palestinians have the good fortune of an enemy from whom the world expects the very highest of moral standards -- like turning the other cheek when civilians are being blown up in malls and restaurants and schoolyards in all their cities. Whoops, I forgot, those are supposed to be "military" targets, right?Though the Arabs receive 100's of billons annually, much of the worth of that money has been eroded away by the financial and gold manipulations in the West Try, eroded away by their corrupt and useless political systems, which has taken the world's largest windfall, oil money, and produced NOTHING except a rapidly dwindling pile of cash. And oh yeah, babies galore. 70% of the Arab world is under 25.>>Didn`t the Arabs start all the Wars? Yes, they did start the wars. Do not, however, rule out the possibility they were manipulated/provoked into starting them. Remarkably paternalistic attitude. You really don't regard the Arabs as grown-ups responsible for their own decisions, do you? Do you also feel this way about, say, the South Koreans? Did you know that in the 1950's the South Koreans had the same per-capita income as Egyptians, but now the South Koreans' income is five times higher? I might point out that the South Koreans are a) not Western at all, b) suffered under fifty years of really vicious colonialist rule (Japanese), and c) then endured a devastating civil war and the division of the country. The game was not exactly tilted in their favor either, wouldn't you say? What do you suppose made the difference?