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To: ptanner who wrote (81491)	6/3/2002 3:40:35 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 275872

Jerry will be on CNBC tonight at 7EST: CNBC 6/3/02 - 8:14 AM... is franklin temton but he is still investment vesting and talking about where he sees growth and we will give you all of that tonight at 7:00. In addition, given the fact that it is such busy week for semis, he also be joined by jerry sanders the co-founder and chair chair of amd. We will find out what he has to say about business right now. Again that's a 7:00. Do stay with us we have got lot more to come on "squawk box." Petz

To: ptanner who wrote (81491)	6/3/2002 6:04:30 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

PT, Re: [From Anandtech]"What's very interesting about NVIDIA's chipset is that there doesn't seem to be any on-board frame buffer for integrated video. The reason this is such an important feature that is missing is because we have been hearing all along from chipset manufacturers that the latency introduced by having to use the Hammer's on-die memory controller effectively kills integrated graphics performance. Remember that with previous chipset designs with a unified frame buffer the memory controller was physically right next to the graphics processor (or a part of it), but now the graphics must go all the way to the CPU in order to get access to the memory controller and perform any memory reads/writes. Unless the graphics cores are modified significantly with much deeper buffers to take into account this change in latency, the performance of conventional integrated graphics solutions on Hammer will suffer." This is exactly what I had meant in my previous message. Apparently, Anand couldn't come up with a good reason why nVidia missed this feature, either. Perhaps, they are willing to take the huge performance hit, since the competition at this point is so far behind. I don't any other integrated graphics engine besides nVidia can afford that kind of performance drop, though. wbmw