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To: JPR who wrote (12196)	6/6/2002 6:42:55 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 12475

Let the darned thing enter squadron service first. Then we will know whether it can do anything. And yes, some Talpade or some such moron was supposedly the Indian who beat the Wright brothers to powered flight (as claimed by your RSS gang leader). So, powered flight, advanced surgery, freeways... you name it, Indians have done it all first -- at least in their imaginations!

To: JPR who wrote (12196)	6/6/2002 8:36:59 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12475

Bush steps in to cool India, Pakistan tensions US President makes personal calls for restraint; tells Musharraf to deliver on promise to stop cross-border infiltration By Nirmal Ghosh INDIA CORRESPONDENT NEW DELHI - India-Pakistan tensions ebbed yesterday after President George W. Bush intervened personally with telephone calls to both leaders urging them to choose the diplomatic path in settling their conflict. Apart from calling for restraint, he told Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf to deliver on his promise to stop cross-border infiltration by militants into India's half of Kashmir - a key demand that New Delhi has also made. Advertisement Washington's urgings and concerns that the conflict not escalate were reinforced with the arrival in Islamabad yesterday of straight-talking US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage - who met Gen Musharraf shortly after touching down. He appeared encouraged afterwards, saying the Pakistani leader had given assurances that he is seeking a peaceful resolution to the dispute with India, and stressing that he does not want war. 'President Musharraf has made it very clear that he is searching for peace, and he won't be the one to initiate a war, and I will be hopefully getting the same type of assurances tomorrow in Delhi,' Mr Armitage said. 'He made it very clear to me that he wants to do everything which he can to search for peace...that is a very good basis on which to proceed.' And as if to indicate that they would be willing to give US diplomacy a chance, the guns along the Line of Control (LOC) dividing India and Pakistan in the disputed Kashmir region fell largely silent. Mr Armitage is expected to bring assurances from Islamabad to New Delhi today, and in return get India to de-escalate its military build-up and readiness. His visit will be followed by the arrival early next week of Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld - who is expected to spell out in no uncertain terms that both sides cannot hope to conduct a limited conflict without risking a full-scale nuclear exchange. Analysts here believe Washington will also put forward a package of suggestions - for instance, promising Gen Musharraf support on a range of issues, including the economy, if he stops infiltration and winds up militant bases in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. Reports said Mr Rumsfeld could also bring a proposal for a joint US-British force to monitor the LOC. The proposed contingent would work as a 'verification force' to ensure cross-border movement of militants from Pakistan into Jammu and Kashmir state in India stops. But New Delhi has turned down similar ideas in the past. Even the idea of joint patrolling with Pakistan, mooted by Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on Wednesday, is seen as an attempt to score a point: it is an old proposal that has never found favour with Pakistan. India's National Security Adviser Brajesh Mishra, however, told reporters in Moscow that if Pakistan accepts the idea in principle, 'it can then be moved forward to modality, to how it can be implemented'. The international community is mindful of the fact that a terrorist strike - especially against civilians - could trigger an immediate Indian military response which could escalate into a full-scale war. At the least, New Delhi will probably concentrate on sharing intelligence with Washington on terrorist camps and movements, with the objective of verifying on the ground - possibly with US help - whether infiltration has stopped. But such a job is complicated by the terrain. The LOC zig-zags through high Himalayan ranges and deep gorges, making it extremely difficult to monitor efficiently with conventional means. Both Islamabad and New Delhi have been taking pains to play down fears of a nuclear conflict - fuelled, Indian media analysts say, partly by alarmist reports in the Western press. straitstimes.asia1.com.sg

To: JPR who wrote (12196)	6/7/2002 9:11:13 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12475

JPR, sure sign that foreign powers are helping India. After all, they cannot build rail coaches. Do you expect them to build drones? Pakistan: Jet shot down India spy plane LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) -- A Pakistani military jet late Friday gunned down an unmanned Indian spy plane over Pakistani airspace, officials in Pakistan said. The incident comes during international efforts to ease tensions between the two nuclear-armed nations over Kashmir. (Full story) The spy plane went down about 10 miles (15 km) from the border with India, or about 25 miles (40 km) south of Lahore, the capital of the Punjab province near the eastern border. Witnesses described a big fire at the crash scene. Military officials have secured the area, the official said. Troops and peace talks Between them India and Pakistan have massed about a million troops along their border and the Kashmiri Line of Control, which divides the disputed region between them. India accuses Pakistan of funding, arming and training Islamic militant groups it blames for a series of attacks in Indian administered Kashmir and a deadly attack on the Indian parliament last December. Pakistan has denied the Indian charges saying it only gives moral support to groups waging what it calls a "liberation struggle" for the people of Kashmir. (A tense few weeks) Earlier Friday, top U.S. envoy Richard Armitage said tensions between two nations have eased a little, but says it is too soon to rule out the threat of a war over Kashmir. "Tensions are a little bit down," Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told reporters after meeting with Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee in the Indian capital. Armitage had held talks with Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf in Islamabad on Thursday on the first stop of his mission to try to defuse the potential conflict on the subcontinent. Musharraf assured him Pakistan would not start a war. The tense stand-off has raised international fears of a possible nuclear war developing from the dispute over the Himalayan region, which already has sparked two w ars between Pakistan and India. cnn.com