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To: Neocon who wrote (263297)	6/12/2002 12:22:33 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Posted before: Jets not scrambled emperors-clothes.com public-action.com "In Part I, we discussed NORAD's interception of hijacked aircraft, but let's revisit the subject. You can read FAA/NORAD regulations (FAA Order 7610.4, Special Military Operations, Effective Date November 3, 1998) at: faa.gov (You may want to download for safekeeping, as we did.) See Chapter 4 (4-8-1, 4-8-2): "NORAD has a requirement to flush/disperse interceptor and E-3 aircraft to initiate early attack against a hostile force . . . " You may want to read Chapter 7 of the above-cited FAA Order, which deals with the escort of hijacked aircraft. In addition, read the discussion of military interception of civilian aircraft in "Mr. Cheney's Cover Story," by Bykov & Israel. Look at the discussion of how NORAD jets force troublesome aircraft to land. emperors-clothes.com In fact, NORAD tested and practiced its hijacking routines regularly. Six weeks after Gen. Myers claimed NORAD didn't know what to launch, the NORAD commander, Gen. Eberhart appeared before this Committee, and said NORAD practiced its hijacking routines "day in and day out." By the context of the remarks, it is very clear he is talking about NORAD practices prior to September 11, 2001. "Five days after Myers went to see the Senate, NORAD issued this press release. spacecom.af.mil or public-action.com Note in that version of events, the FAA notified NORAD about Flight 11 at 8:40 a.m. NORAD order jets to scrambled at 8:46 a.m.. Jets were in the air at 8:52. We now have two stories: Story Number One: NORAD decided to scramble after 9:03 a.m. NORAD jets were scrambled after 9:40 a.m. Story Number Two: NORAD was notified at 8:40 a.m. NORAD ordered scramble at 8:46 a.m. NORAD jets were scrambled at 8:52 a.m. Story Number Two (as contained in the NORAD press release) is almost the exact reverse of Myers' story on September 13. Myers said that a jet was sent to Pennsylvania and reached Flight 93), but no jets were launched until after Flights 11, 175, and 77 had crashed (New York and Pentagon crashes). Look at the facts/factoids contained in the NORAD release. Very few, very simple. NORAD got the jets up in about six minutes. Yet it took them a week (September 18) to get the press release out. Wonder why it took so long to be issued?

To: Neocon who wrote (263297)	6/12/2002 12:31:02 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"Initial reports suggested that no aircraft were scrambled to intercept or shoot down the hijacked jets. Two days later Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, told the Senate Armed Services Committee: "When it became clear what the threat was, we did scramble fighter aircraft, AWACs, radar aircraft and tanker aircraft to begin to establish orbits in case other aircraft showed up in the FAA system that were hijacked... That order, to the best of my knowledge, was after the Pentagon was struck." Marine Corps Maj. Mike Snyder, a spokesman for NORAD, echoed Myers in a Sept. 15 Boston Globe story, which stated: "[T]he command did not immediately scramble any fighters even though it was alerted to a hijacking 10 minutes before the first plane…slammed into the first World Trade Center tower... The spokesman said the fighters remained on the ground until after the Pentagon was hit..." U.S. inaction was all the more astonishing because the same story had Snyder admitting that "fighters routinely intercept aircraft." emperors-clothes.com