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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (167)	6/12/2002 5:18:27 PM
From: Original Mad Dog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 770

Thanx..I will go through it later...but I noticed this early on: The Holy Qur'an cannot be translated from Arabic into other languages, but the meanings of its verses are translated. The composition of the verses of the Holy Qur'an are just not mere letters and words in a sentence of the Arabic Language. As the verses of the Qur'an are read, a heart tranquilizing tone is also transmitted. Any one who hears the reading is affected by it regardless of the language they speak. In addition, the style of reading and rhythm associated with each passage gives the verse more meaning and a deeper feeling to the listeners. To explain to the reader the type of inspiration Muslims take from the Qur'an and its stories of the Prophets, we dedicated the Section: The Prophets of God: Source of inspiration, in Part II. I take that to mean that there are no "translations" of the Koran permitted, only interpretations of its meaning.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (167)	6/12/2002 5:22:41 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 770

From the site you provided. Part III The Birth of a Message (Continue, Page 2) The Rise of Islam "Any who improves a dead land, he will have the right to own it." Buhkari, the Book of Muzara'ah (agriculture) 19. The Jews must bear their expenses and the Muslims bear theirs. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. Their condition must be one of mutual advice, consultation and charity rather than harm and aggression. I think there are more than a few in the ME that have not read all these good things put out by muslims.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (167)	6/12/2002 5:34:40 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 770

Like I said I am reading through the web site you posted and so far there is very little violence in what is written there. Also there is no date as to when this material was put together.. Do you know if this was put together before or after Sept.11 as there was some mention of terrorist and muslims. Now a question for you. Here is a verse that is supposed to come directly from the quran is this correct and if so what does it mean. Although the meaning seems to be obvious. And don't say it is taken out of context. 3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (167)	6/12/2002 8:05:23 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Respond to of 770

A death sentence for free speech... You can post your bullshit lies about the Muslim faith here on this thread, but this is the Muslim faith in action..... guardian.co.uk Rory McCarthy in Islamabad Monday August 20, 2001 The Guardian A medical lecturer in Pakistan has been sentenced to death under the country's blasphemy laws after his students complained to a hardline Islamic organisation about one of his classes. Younus Shaikh, 46, was sentenced at a private hearing in Rawalpindi on Saturday and fined 100,000 rupees (£1,000). He will appeal but faces many more months in jail before a final decision is reached. Several hundred people have been sentenced to death for blasphemy in Pakistan, but none has yet been executed. The lecturer had trained and practised in Britain and Ireland before working at a private homeopathic college in Islamabad. He was known for his progressive views on women's rights and religion. After one class in October he was accused by his students of saying that until the prophet Mohammed received his first message from God at the age of 40 he was not a Muslim and did not shave his armpits or pubic hair, and his parents were not Muslim. A group of 11 students complained to a group called the Organisation of the Finality of the Prophet, a self-appointed guardian of hardline Sunni Islam, which has brought dozens of blasphemy charges against religious minorities. A charge was lodged against the lecturer and he was immediately arrested, although he insisted that his words were misunderstood. Human rights groups have long criticised the blasphemy law because its vague definition has meant it has been frequently used to victimise minorities, especially Christians. Dr Shaikh is only the third Muslim to be convicted. The law, introduced in 1986 under the Islamic hardliner General Zia-ul Haq, defines as blasphemy anything which "by any imputation, innuendo or insinuation, directly or indirectly" defiles the name of the prophet. In 1992, the then prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, made capital punishment the only possible sentence for those convicted, in an effort to placate the religious right. Often those accused are arrested with no evidence other than the word of their accuser, and property or family disputes are frequently behind the accusation. Last year, after a three-year trial, a Lahore court sentenced to death a Muslim Sufi mystic accused of calling himself a prophet. The case was again brought by the Organisation of the Finality of the Prophet. GZ