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How Palestine was annexed piece by piece since 1948.

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a) The first and only Jewish state until 1948 lasted a mere 70 years.

b) it was created by David after he defeated Goliath….

c) David is the descendant of Joshua who entered Palestine and lived amongst its people…

d) Joshua is the descendant of Moses whom his followers refused to support him to conquer Palestine and were lost in the Sinai for 40 years…

clearly others who were non-Jews lived in that area before Moses, Joshua and David….

the UN’s intervention was biased because of the US president at the time who wanted to secure the Jewish-American vote for his re-election campaign as recorded by history.

this is history and facts that anyone can verify.

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brasschecktv.com

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AJAZ documentaries...

jewsagainstzionism.com

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Palestine Remembered
palestineremembered.com

video.google.com

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search for "The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem"

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem (forward)

New link unispal.un.org

OLD link domino.un.org!OpenDocument

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem (Part I)

New Link 2014 http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/AEAC80E740C782E4852561150071FDB0

domino.un.org!OpenDocument

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem (Part II)

unispal.un.org

domino.un.org!OpenDocument

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem (Part III)

whatswrongwiththeworld.net

domino.un.org!OpenDocument

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem (Part IV)

unispal.un.org

domino.un.org!OpenDocument

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Message 17314831
"David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): " If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 "We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes, "The old will die and the young will forget."
Also Ben Gurion stated " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."

Israel's plans for freedom for the Palestinian people:
Message 17314684
"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem" Joseph Weitz, Davar, September 29, 1967, cited in Uri Davis and Norton Mevinsky, eds., Documents from Israel, 1967-1973, p.21.

Albert Einstein and a group of eminent intellectuals protested against the visit of Menachim Begin, while he was in the United States in 1948 on a fund raising campaign, for his role in the Deir Yassin massacre. Their protest letter (published in the NY Times): Message 17679322

They Dare Speak Out, a book by the Illinois Republican Congressman, Paul Findley who served for 22 years.
amazon.com

What Christians don’t know about Israel
An article by Grace Halsell. She also authored, Journey to Jerusalem and other books on the issue.
Message 17360751

some famous quotes
al-awda.org

the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
wrmea.com

Andy Martin American Broadcaster
Message 17425015
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I ask that everyone limit the discussion to the subject matter. It does not matter if everyone went away to another thread. So be it.

Dogs will forever bark Subject 53066 and I suggest utilizing the ignore feature.

Some people keep pressing for the discussion on this thread to become a discussion on Islam and / or attacking Muslims. I am sure they are aware of many other threads that are dedicated for that. So, one can only conclude that the ulterior motives of those people is to sidetrack the discussion to attacking Islam and Muslims and clogging the thread discouraging others from finding the facts about Palestine. So, I suggest to everyone to utilize the ignore feature.

And by the way, religion has nothing to do with the Palestine issue. There are Christian as well as Jewish Palestinians. The land has been, and is still being annexed and stolen by the Jews from the rightful owners for more than 2000 years.
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770<b>The Invention of the Jewish People</b> ft.com From its splashy Elmer Flugum-11/20/2009
769<b>The Hypocrisy of the Zionists</b> ""But illustrating tElmer Flugum-11/20/2009
768Israel is only 23% of post-WW I Palestine. The Muslims own the vast majority of blankmind-5/19/2009
767SERIOUS rant i wrote one of my other threads: but i first preface with much thatLTK007-4/28/2008
766Go ahead, ban me for posting the truth, it's your style... hey, this threadGROUND ZERO™-12/12/2006
765Speaking frankly about Israel and Palestine Jimmy Carter says his recent book iAmericanVoter-12/9/2006
764It's clear as day, these barbarian moslums want to rule the world... I say GROUND ZERO™-9/2/2006
763Hi GZ Here is an excellent letter I received from a friend for a Canadian view pCyrus-9/2/2006
762Here's the miracle of your islum... thereligionofpeace.com GZGROUND ZERO™-9/1/2006
761The highest form of Jihad in Islam is to critique the rulers. Now, why does thaAmericanVoter-9/1/2006
760Since Muslims have no talents besides destroying and murdering, they would find FJB-9/1/2006
759What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by William Hughes (Tuesday July 11 2006) AmericanVoter-9/1/2006
758Could you comment on this? TIA Message 22770877 GZGROUND ZERO™-8/31/2006
757AV, could you kindly respond to this attached link, unless you would rather duckGROUND ZERO™-8/31/2006
756Subject 56764Proud_Infidel-8/30/2006
755Palestine Remembered palestineremembered.com video.google.comAmericanVoter-8/30/2006
754AJAZ documentaries... jewsagainstzionism.comAmericanVoter-8/30/2006
753Here's the truth about your make believe palestinians... The Palestinians wGROUND ZERO™-8/16/2006
752A Letter from Nelson Mandela to Thomas Friedman March 28, 2001 To: Thomas L.AmericanVoter-6/2/2003
751CounterPunch August 23, 2002 Lieberman's Conflict of Interest? by William AmericanVoter-10/29/2002
750<b>Attack Iraq...</b> Subject 53271 GZGROUND ZERO™-9/2/2002
749TWO MORE OUT OF THE WAY... apnews.excite.com GZGROUND ZERO™-9/1/2002
748Who put the sheiks (what happened to the i before e rule here?) in power? Who cElmer Flugum-8/8/2002
747The revenues for oil will be spent to better the population in a democratic mannDeplorableIrredeemableRedneck-8/7/2002
746No, no difficulties at all... GZGROUND ZERO™-8/7/2002
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