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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/13/2002 9:03:19 PM
From: Torus  Respond to of 770
 
Hey Adolf,
You didn't just say "anything against the Jews"...you said,

"There certainly was a very strong reason that the Jews invited the wrath of WWII Europe. It did not happen overnight. They kept poking at Hilter and the Europeans to such an extent that they finally decided to give it back to them."

So the Jews had it comin', huh?



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/13/2002 9:18:38 PM
From: Original Mad Dog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 770
 
If you do not believe that those lives were lost in support of Jewish causes, then ask yourself why US structures were targeted and not any structure in the UK, Russia or the EU?

Seemed to me as I watched TV that morning that the lives were lost because somebody decided to kill a bunch of people (might have been five times as many if the planes had hit around the same time). From all the available evidence, those people killed in the name of Islam, not Judaism.

Two questions for you:

1. Was 9/11 the fault of Islamic fundamentalists including Osama bin Laden, or was it the fault of Jews?

2. (since I am still waiting for Amein's answer) Should the Palestinians stop the suicide/homicide bombings?



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/13/2002 9:35:34 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 770
 
Message 17601119



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/14/2002 5:47:51 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 770
 
You need to be intellectually honest, anyone who disagrees with you is off topic, you need to examine yourself... now, you say the Jews are responsible for the onset of WW II... well, since you brought this up, could you kindly expound with supportive detail how the Jews are responsible for WW II? TIA...

Here's your interesting post:

Message 17600870

GZ



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/14/2002 8:27:44 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 770
 
Re: Very soon Bush will realize that the best way to win the war against terrorism is to adopt an approach that Colin Powell says we should. Do you want to bet that after the November elections when Bush is done getting the Jewish money to support his candidates, he will move away from his present approach.

You forgot the Judeofascist lobby's silver bullet: the assassination of Prez G.W. Bush BEFORE his likely re-election.... Like McKinley in 1901, JFK in 1963, Lincoln in... etc.

Gus



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (206)6/15/2002 12:41:48 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 770
 
why US structures were targeted and not any structure in the UK, Russia or the EU?

You ought to be aware that Al Qaida and their allies have attempted numerous terror attacks - some successful, some foiled-in Europe, Russia, India, Pakistan, and elsewhere.

in support of Jewish causes - the "Jews are our misfortune" claim.

Here's a post documenting the stated greivances of Al Qaida against America - the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only one of three complaints given:

Message 16847998

Although the Israeli-Palestinian conflict get a lot of attention,it is not the root of all conflict in the Middle East. Let's play "What if..": What if no Zionist movement had come into existence? Well, there would be no Israel, no Palestinian conflict. Palestine would likely be ruled by the Hashemite family who rules Jordan. The Jewish population of the US would be substantially higher. Those are a few things that would be different.

But what wouldn't be different? The Iranian revolution would have happened anyway. The Iran-Iraq war would have occurred. Ditto the Indian-Pakistani wars, the Gulf War, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the wars and chaos following it. 9/11 would have happened.

Back to things that would be different: Without an Israel to provide an alienating/cooling influence between the US and the Arab governments - the conservative family monarchies and sultanates (SA, Kuwait, Oman and the little Gulf states, Morocco) would cozy up much more closely with the US - like the Shah did. This would be counter-productive as their internal malcontents would be even more inclined to see their ruling monarchies as corrupt American puppets - again just like the Shah. So the Middle East would likely have had several more Islamic revolutions like Iran's.