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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (51368)	6/18/2002 12:24:21 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

JC comes from the business applications side of academia. I thought he implied that it was good for students to develop their own motivation, and that if they didn't have it there wasn't much he thought he could do for them. He and I part company there, but I think that is what he was saying. And it certainly is a position shared by a lot of academics.

To: Solon who wrote (51368)	6/18/2002 3:12:06 PM
From: J. C. Dithers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Look at this way, Solon... A young adult comes to a university or college usually after a competitive selection process. The seat that young freshman was awarded could have gone to another, probably equally deserving, student who was denied admission. Generally the freshman will spend his first two years taking required core courses, choosing electives, and thinking about a major. During those two years, all the many resources of knowledge are available for him ... courses (many of his own choosing), library, various labs, computer facilities. Guidance counselors are readily available, and so is assistance for students with learning problems. Many sports and recreational facilities are open to him for a total life experience. There is plenty of free time for socializing. This is the "golden opportunity" I speak of. Here is the reservoir of all of the accumulated wisdom of civilization, spread out before him. Here is his opportunity to immerse himself in learning experiences of his choice. Here is his chance to prepare for a lifelong career. In most cases, he has this glorious opportunity before him for four years, without having to worry about supporting himself. Now --- if this lad enters my classroom --- are you telling me that it is my responsibility to motivate him to make the most of his college experience? It is my responsibility to see to it that he applies himself to the maximum of his ability? If your answer is "yes," than we part company on this issue.