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To: Bilow who wrote (32558)	6/18/2002 7:10:38 PM
From: ThirdEye	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Israel is not a religious state. It is a secular state. Israel is also arguably more democratic than the US. To make progress in negotiations requires trust that your adversary can and does tell the truth. This trust does not exist now and will not exist as long as the PA leadership continues to smile for the cameras above the table while shooting underneath it. And your suggestion that Israel commit national suicide is not one that anyone there would take seriously anyway.

To: Bilow who wrote (32558)	6/18/2002 10:35:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Of course if Israel allowed the Palestinians right of return, removed the religious distinctions in their laws, and included all the territories in a new country, their terrorism problems would be over. If not immediately, then soon by population growth, the Palestinians would have won. Yeah, then the Arabs take over, reduce the Jews to dhimmitude, followed soon after by expulsion. The rest of the world shrugs its shoulders -- after all, that's how Arab states always behave. Who got upset when Kuwait expelled 300,000 Palestinians, lots of whom had been born in Kuwait? This is the Mideast, Carl. You seem to forget that. There are no Arab Nelson Mandelas. If you don't believe me, just listen to Hamas. They will tell you what they want. And it isn't some western vision of "equal rights".