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To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (47)	6/26/2002 11:42:12 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Respond to of 390

you are right, it wasn't the supremes. from the header The court noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has said students cannot hold religious invocations at graduations and cannot be compelled to recite the pledge. But when the pledge is recited in a classroom, a student who objects is confronted with an "unacceptable choice between participating and protesting," the appeals court said. "Although students cannot be forced to participate in recitation of the pledge, the school district is nonetheless conveying a message of state endorsement of a religious belief when it requires public school teachers to recite, and lead the recitation of, the current form of the pledge," the court said.

To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (47)	6/26/2002 11:46:43 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 390

this was a nation built under the idea of religious freedom, not a nation built under god. And why is it so difficult to understand that the objection isn't about people freely expressing themselves, it is about a government entity sanctioning it. Did you read what I wrote? I don't have any problem with individuals choosing to express themselves by saying the pledge of allegiance in any setting that they choose. It is simply the formal sanctioning by a government institution. I would have an equal objection if a school forbid an individual from saying the pledge of allegiance (or praying). (as long as it wasn't done in a way as to interrupt the learning activities of others). I think that the right thing to do is have a three minute free expression period at the start of every day. Some can pray, some can say the pledge of allegiance, some can read some poetry, some can cram for the test in two minutes and some can think of what they are going to where to the dance on Friday night.