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To: Doug R who wrote (268498)	6/30/2002 12:52:59 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Hindsight is the last refuge of fools...

To: Doug R who wrote (268498)	6/30/2002 1:58:08 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

fact, he did complete the task. He succeeded in an attack and lost the war. I proffer my believes as to why. The best you can do is quote the opinion of some motor mouth sans any rationale. That's my definition of a whiner who cannot think for himself. When you see something in print????. ROFLOL what a moronic argument. Do you actually read what you post LOL..... The selection of the point of attack and the methods based upon how Airline systems functioned was brilliant in it's simplicity. It succeeded for that attack and what is the probability that binnie is fully composted today. That's losing the war. All my successes at some outstanding engineering IMHO, LOL, I give a lot of credit to my ability to think stupidly like others and see at the same time my stupid thinking. watman.com tom watson tosiwmee

To: Doug R who wrote (268498)	6/30/2002 2:14:52 PM
From: DOUG H	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

HOW CLINTON CRIPPLED US INTELLIGENCE KEVIN ROBINSON from deltacom.net at 3:11 p.m. ET Mr. Baer, in your opinion why did the CIA shut down in the 1990s? Was it the politics that were established during the '70s and '80s to "fence in" the Agency or was it the lack of leadership and willingness on CIA and executive leaders? BOB BAER at 3:12 p.m. ET I believe that it was a systematic failure on the part of the American government and it was not solely the fault of the CIA. Neither the White House nor Congress was pushing for better intelligence. BRIAN LARKIN at 3:13 p.m. ET Mr. Baer, You mentioned that the CIA has been denuded; due, in part, to a desire by those in power to make the agency more 'politically correct'. Could you give me a few examples of how this sort of thinking has damaged the CIA's effectiveness? BOB BAER at 3:14 p.m. ET In the mid 1990s, the CIA underwent what we called an "agent scrub." That meant that we let go of approximately 60% of our human sources, perhaps more, which seriously damaged the CIA. When I was in charge of the Caucuses in Central Asia, for example, we had no human sources. That also was in the mid to late 1990s. VINCENT MOLLOY at 3:15 p.m. ET Do you think that Clinton's lack of a personal military background and liberal left politics effectively killed the CIA's ability to develop any realistic position in the Mid-East during his administration? BOB BAER at 3:16 p.m. ET I believe that President Clinton, of all the presidents I served under, was the least interested in intelligence. If he had been a better reader of intelligence, he might have predicted the current outcome in the fighting between Israel and the Palestinians. JEFF BRUENDERMAN from ipt.aol.com at 3:17 p.m. ET