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To: DOUG H who wrote (268535)	6/30/2002 2:19:00 PM
From: Doug R	Respond to of 769670

HOW CLINTON CRIPPLED US INTELLIGENCE I totally agree. Don't let Tom Watsonwannabee see you use any references or source material though. He seems to think it's meaningless and you're supposed to sit there in a vaccuum and accept whatever the administration wants shoved down your throat.

To: DOUG H who wrote (268535)	6/30/2002 3:54:09 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

THE CIA AND THE DIRTY BUSINESS OF SPYING Doug, I've read about 1/3 of Baer's book and decided he's a propaganda tool for the Agency. He's not an independent critic. One of the things Baer fails to mention is that the upper echelon of CIA and NSA management made the decision about two decades ago that the use of electronic surveillance was much more to their liking than the grunt work of running "assets" in foreign lands. There's a whiz-bang component to this, as well as a reaction to the chastisement of the Church hearings in the late 1970's, when a lot of dirty laundry got hung out on the line. To say that Clinton was irresponsible flies in the face of facts. The CIA and NSA continued to have massive budget infusions throughout the Clinton years. Baer is just blowing smoke on behalf of his buddies in the Agency. -Ray

To: DOUG H who wrote (268535)	6/30/2002 5:05:00 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

The fact the the freekin Publicans used and criticized EVERY attempt by the former President to Actually retaliate against Bin Laden deeming every move AS A BULLSHIT WAG THE DOG SCENARIO (to of course compliment their ANTI Constitutional attack on the man for his own sexual weakenesses) are what CREATED THE ENVIRONMENT OF BEING OPEN TO ATTACK from the terrorists. And the creationists ad nauseum in here will never admit that. and for christ's sake don't bring up the oldest news in the world about the freekin aspirin factory....... the CIA gave him the information and carried it out. CC