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To: E who wrote (16166)	6/30/2002 1:42:29 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Madam. surely you do not believe I favor having those two words in the pledge? Have you lost all memory of me? Early Alzheimer's? :-) They should never have been inserted. And the Court should have quickly killed the law that put them there. There are many shuddas here. But this is not worth the backlash a culture war will set off. Back in the Good Old Days it was considered perfectly appropriate for boys to play cowboys and Indians and soldier and play with guns. If you invent a time machine, perhaps we can change that. :-) I wasn't any of those, but was still shy, with some exceptions You? Shy? With exceptions? And what were those? <snicker>

To: E who wrote (16166)	6/30/2002 1:45:17 PM
From: Constant Reader	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

It is most decidedly NOT a prayer. No one addresses God and asks for anything. It's a passing reference. No one had to leave the room when I was a kid, no one was listening for what words someone said or didn't say. Anyone can say the Pledge of Allegiance and delete or change words to suit their beliefs. You prefer to pretend that it was and is all or nothing. It has not been all or nothing since 1943. I doubt anyone gave a damn then whether or not you said under God - they didn't have time to make each student individually say it. They certainly don't care now. (NOT speaking about you or anyone else posting here personally:) People are free to not pledge allegiance to their country, and some like using the subterfuge of objecting to the reference rather than admit their real reason.