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To: sylvester80 who wrote (1339)	7/3/2002 2:29:54 PM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

gotta try to respond on the many Bush blamings - big part of fed deficit is for military response to AlQaeda... the tax cut was the smallest since the VietNam War and is regarded by many to have been ineffective because first it was small and second it was too time delayed... much of the deficit comes from a slowing economy, which is the direct result of the burst american bubble of the 1990's, a slowing economy from ridiculously high FedReserve rates in middle of 2000... with slower economy comes lower income tax withholdings... with burst stock bubble comes lower capital gains tax receipts... if you blame him for military response, what is your alternative suggestion? - collapsing dollar is reversal of Rubin's insane Strong Dollar policy... this insanity sent much mfg capacity to Asia and Mexico, produced wide trade gaps, and ushered in dependence upon foreign capital to finance all debts... have you ever heard of Robert Rubin? - the farm bill is atrocious... I hate trade tariffs and protection... they invite disaster - I smell a nasty rat with Bush-Cheney and Enron... this could erupt into a scandal if it ever hits the open... agreed - MiddleEast is a no-win... any policy fails... but we do seem to turn a blind eye to much of Israel's violence... our policy seems at times to be "any dead arab is a good arab" - IT spending is not in his control... its oversupply has invited liquidation... the Y2K Event brought with it a rush to add capacity, and an oversupply even afterwards with incorrect anticipation of post-Y2K needs... a broadband initiative during horrendous oversupply? huh? you want more?.. ever heard of the Y2K Effect? - clueless in foreign affairs might be right... I expect our buddy Russian Putin to betray the USA... riding as cowboys on the farm does not address the deep philosophical differences between US and Russia... Putin came from KGB, and should be treated carefully... and not tough enough on the Saudi hypocrites, who are the biggest hypocrites in this world - agreed on pre-911 warnings, asleep at wheel - OBL/Omar Wanted Posters make great press, agreed on stupidity... only trouble with covert action is the CIA was kneedeep as OBL comrades... agreed - agreed on scare tactics to distract, but he is also criticized for not warning... so can he do both? - I blame Cheney/Rumseld for released Kunduz Paki warriors who are now probably firmly placed in the hills of Kashmir... a necessary evil to obtain Paki help?.. sometimes help should be turned down if the price is too high... agreed - terrorism often seems hypocritical, depending on where you stand, agreed - our pushbutton bombing strategy invites innocent killings, and I hate it... if you dont look your enemy in his eyes, you are a coward in my book... agreed - the environment versus energy production dilemma will never go away... do you own an SUV car?.. what solution do you suggest on energy challenges?.. I say work with Canada to sharply expand, so far so good... I buy Sunoco gas only, from Canada - you should blame the illiterate masses of Democrats for screwing up the election for Gore Bore Snore... if you cannot read, cannot follow directions, cannot pull your pants up, and dont speak english, your vote shouldnt count... the Democrats have the biggest joke for a political coalition in the history of mankind well, I touched on all I respect your views but try digging a little deeper on half your issues you only touch the surface on almost everything economic or financial, and thus miss the real meaty heart of each matter you remind me of a guy who shits on his neighbors driveway the husband comes home from work, and steps in it unwittingly the wife blames the husband look deeper on financial stuff this country has spent a few decades creating problems Kondratieff expects each cycle to last 55-70 years we were due, because of our faulty money, excess debts and it aint even close to being over those who are unable to careful dissect the complex economical and financial situations will be quick to blame the other political party in future months and years I voted for Reagan, and hated the Star Wars bankrupt military policy I voted for Clinton once, and hated his strong dollar Trez policy and easy money Fed policy I voted for Bush and hate the Simple Simon foreign policy but the financial disaster that is upon us is the responsibility of many things dating back to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Nixon, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Greenspan, Socialism, and OPEC / jim

To: sylvester80 who wrote (1339)	7/3/2002 2:54:48 PM
From: Skywatcher	Respond to of 89467

I THANK you for the BLAME GAME LIST..... I'm IN CC

To: sylvester80 who wrote (1339)	7/3/2002 5:12:32 PM
From: t2	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

syl, interesting comments from you on Bush. I blame him for terrorism and the escalation in the Middle East by giving the green light to Sharon to suppress even more an already suppressed and hopeless population That is the problem. The green light is given to someone who the Palestinians already accuse of being a mass murderer from several years back. His message to the people is to simply stop terrorist acts (suicide bombings). That is not good enough. He needs to give the Palestinians some sort of moral victory. Don't know how he does it but the current approach is definately not it. To say..stop terrorism or else is simply another way of demanding surrender. That is not going to work..if it does, it will be short term. The hatred of the US and Israel will remain in that region. He is not thinking long term...but maybe that is no big surprise. Bush can support Israel but there has got to be a better way to do this. IMHO, he and Sharon are putting the Israeli people in more danger. Weaponry used in terrorist acts are going to get more sophisticated...that is my fear. It is better to pressure both sides right now so some worse fate for the people of that region is avoided. I just fear that the US will not be able to stop some groups from getting biological/chemical or even nuclear weapons. That is why it is better to show that the US is not biased. What will this accomplish----makes it harder for terrorist groups to recruit intelligent people. Right now, I bet the educated public hates Israel and America. That is the problem as I see it. Uneducated terrorists can be caught a lot easier and will not be able to develop sophisticated weapons. As I see it, the only hope is if Sharon loses the next election; Maybe Sharon being booted out will make the palestinians a lot more willing to talk about real peace. When Bush is voted out, that will probably be the start of the end the hatred of the US in that region. Same goes for Arafat..hope they boot him out when their elections are held and allow some educated/intelligent to lead the people. Have see enough interviews of the PLO group to see that all of them are far more qualified than Arafat. That is my peace plan. I blame him for acting religious yet killing scores of innocent people Yea, this starting to bug me. Too many innocents are being killed in Afganistan..it just struck after the latest bombing during that Afgan wedding. Something is wrong here. Unfortunately it makes the news in the US for a day and is then forgotten. I believe European/Asians are probably getting a little upset about how these people get killed with no consequences for the US. That is probably very threatening to them. I think the Europeans keep a tally of the number of innocents killed in Afgan...and I bet they are higher than the lives lost in the twin towers. This is bad "karma" for the US. jmho.