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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (694)	7/4/2002 8:10:04 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Respond to of 3467

That would also be justifiable... one way or the other, the war was immediately over..... BTW, there's nothing off topic on this thread since everything is connected in some way, I suppose..... GZ

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (694)	7/5/2002 12:05:13 AM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3467

Ray re: Merely that their use accelerated the end of the war and improved the U.S. negotiating position. you are very confused man, ending the war earlier saved a lot of lives in US, Japan and Russia. The only secondary objective was to prevent Russian troops from landing in Japan. The negotiation position of US in Europe was not affected by A bomb, learn your history -Albert

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (694)	7/5/2002 8:17:13 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3467

Ray: Here is the chronology: A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima by U.S. (Aug. 6). U.S.S.R. declares war on Japan (Aug. 8). Nagasaki hit by A-bomb (Aug. 9). Japan agrees to surrender (Aug. 14). Noel

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (694)	7/5/2002 11:40:08 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3467

"I've done some reading on the matter. One of the most important determinants of the choice to use the bombs in August, 1945 was the imminent entry of the USSR into the war against Japan. U.S. diplomatic interests did not want to face a negotiation with Russia over dividing the spoils." That's interesting viewpoint, never heard that interpretation of the use of the atomic bombs. I've always known that the USSR entered the Pacific war as late as it did in order to gain an advantage without any costs, both human and economic. They had lost 20,000,000 citizens by that time and had an economy that was in ruins. It's also well accepted that the tremendous loss of life was due, in part, to Stalin's incompetence and paranoia. The economic situation in the USSR at the time is well described elsewhere. Have you read Fortune's article on the coming war against Saddam? July 22/no. 14, page 48. Pretty sobering.