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To: t2 who wrote (1478)	7/5/2002 12:51:00 AM
From: augieboo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

As to Pilger, he has had an audience since 911, and probably long before. Try signing onto some Islamic discussion groups on Yahoo, (the Pakistani-oriented ones are about the only ones in English), and you'll find that Pilger is WORSHIPPED there -- his every musing reposted ad nauseum, (and always from the big British papers). As to Europes views of us, don't let yourself be fooled into thinking that it is our views on various issues, or our military might, which makes them feel threatened, because it's not. It's our success, and their inability to deal with their jealousy of that success, that causes the problems. In Europe, they are too arrogant to admit their jealousy, so they criticize our hangnails yet ignore their own gangrenous feet. Consider a couple other regions, and their differing reactions to us: In the greater Middle East, (by that I mean the Arab countries plus the predominently Muslim countries of northern Africa and south Asia), the despots who run those countries use their people's jealousy of the U.S. to stay in power. Specifically, the people have been brain washed by their own governments to transfer the anger and hatred which naturally results from their sorry lot in life, from its proper target, i.e., their own governments, onto the U.S. In (much of) Asia, by contrast, they deal with the jealousy by trying to become more successful, like us. This is why Taiwan, which in 1950 had a GDP roughly on par with Egypt, (I think Egypt, but I cannot swear to it), now has a greater GDP than all the Arab countries combined. Of course we are going to be isolated in the world, just as Winston Churchill warned us we would back in the late 1940's. We are the Super Power, and our system works better than any other. Kissing Europe's fat, bloated, pimply a$$ will not change that.

To: t2 who wrote (1478)	7/5/2002 10:02:05 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Respond to of 89467

yes, TMan, the Soviet downfall changed the world it has had very little good consequences sure, end of Cold War, or is it? the oldline Soviet Communists are STILL THERE the old KGB guys are STILL THERE in fact, their leader Putin is now President of Russia !!! I dont trust ANYONE from the old KGB, incl Putin I expect the US and Bush will be betrayed by Russia maybe not at hands of Putin, but by Russia right now, Russia's Old Guard is attending NATO security meetings they are receiving valuable critical security data I dont like it one bit the fall of Soviet Union crippled Germany, perhaps permanently they adopted the East Germans, and become the rich uncle to Poland, Czech, and Hungary their financial health has not recovered since they have been mired in a recession of sorts for several years their unemployment is near 10% the fall of Soviet Union resulted in the USDollar bubble with the DMark gone, and the Euro not yet blessed, the US$ ruled but it ruled with far too much power, with no rival now we are seeing the horrific consequences the pain and extreme cost of the unwinding USdollar will be seen for about 2-3 more years we dont like its early pain after only 2-3 months wait until next year the press calls it good for US exporters I say that is the ONLY POSITIVE among 20 dollar decline effects the fall of Soviets put the USA into false sense of security meanwhile as we dismantled our CIA and FBI, the Islamic threat rose Clinton cut back severely on all security investments and resources the irony is that few realize Osama's boys might still be on the CIA payroll even as we chase them down the CIA role before, during, and now is unclear my guess is the CIA is involved in Afghany heroin trade / jim