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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (20785)	7/5/2002 8:05:50 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 74559

<This no doubt causes much complaint because Moslems apparently like to bury their dead before the sun goes down. And presumably before the end of the next day if they die at sundown or half an hour before> There are still, especially in USA, stories of exploding bodies, especially after severe infectious deceases doing theri stuff in the stomach. In the north, we have the problems of this frozen soil much of the year, and only month one were such devilish things might be possible, only month were even nights can be really warm. (called the rotting month, when extraordinary care should be taken on a lot of stuff which are no problem during the other 11 months) Ilmarinen. However, these practical, historical considerations do not explain the recent USA issues on storing deceased by privatized services. Only thing which I can connect to is when european mediaval little cities, often situated around a river,harbor church, stopped placing the too old citizens under the church floor, and outside on sometimes all four sides of the church. Something to do with local groundwater level sometimes raising much higher than most of the time. Methinks it was this Roussaux, with education of even liitle poor girls, and never popular in the angloamerican world, vox populi,vox dei, who started the culture of suburban burial grounds, in park-like surroundings, trees and nice lawns. (although he did it on a little park-island, but luckily it did not get too crowded, I have no info on what kind of emballage he uses, led, granite,wood, all a a matter of the speed of appetite of those little things down there) Btw, one of the local, third generation keepers of those well kept trees and lawns, flowers and all, once revealed, while turning around his compost for the trees,flowers and the lawn, that he saw that as a pretty good system Booms, Busts and Recoveries, so to say, from ashes to ashes, from soil to soil, and mixing ashes and some oil makes good explosives.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (20785)	7/6/2002 1:28:34 PM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Mq: >>How many children have been tortured to death and where are their parents and relatives? I can imagine instances of that, but I doubt that it's a regular feature of Iraqi investigations of suspicious people. Neither do I believe that dead children are 'tossed' into Iraqi government freezers. Probably, as in NZ, the children are put in cold storage and parents are not allowed to have the bodies until investigators have completed their dissections and consideration of the possibility of foul play.<< You're a good guy so I'll go easy on the sarcasm. What I wrote was the literal truth. Saddam has a full-time staff of interrogators who routinely use the "torture the children" trick. You don't hear much about it because the parents also mostly wind up dead some time later. The frozen babies thing is also literally true. Saddam holds regular events where dead infants are paraded through the streets of Baghdad. The idea is that this shows how US and UN sanctions are killing Iraqi civilians. The liberal Western media usually reports this Iraqi propaganda, which vastly overstates the number of infant deaths, as fact. What is actually happening is that Saddam collects these sad little bodies from all over Iraq, holding them in freezers for months until a sufficient number have been collected. I'm down at the beach on an old, slow computer. I'll post supporting links when I get home. The New York Times reported an outline of the Iraq invasion plan on Friday. This is of course a deliberate leak, designed to test American and potential allied reaction. Also to pass the message of what is coming to Saddam. The invasion will apparently be sometime next year, unless of course Saddam drops his shorts in the meantime. I am sure that there are many Iraqi survivors of the Gulf war who have spread the word that when you try and fight the Americans in the Iraqi desert you die before you see or hear what has just killed you. This will do nothing for the morale of Iraqi forces who will surrender en masse before a shot is fired next time around. I for one can not wait to see Saddam's burned and bullet-riddled body, or better still, Saddam shackled in an orange jump suit with his mustache shaved off by a sympathetic federal employee.