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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Michael M who wrote (52620)	7/7/2002 10:50:07 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Not to get in the middle of anything, but I thought that quote was Patrick Henry from a speech given in Richmond, VIrginia at St John's Church in 1775. I remember this only because in the 7th grade, our class trip was to Richmond and we visited the church.

To: Michael M who wrote (52620)	7/8/2002 10:31:49 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 82486

EDIT. Duplicate post.

To: Michael M who wrote (52620)	7/8/2002 10:39:35 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 82486

So? Paine was a Deist, not an atheist. But he was also emphatically not a Christian- -and he insisted on that. Most of the trouble in his life resulted from persecution by Christians. Paine was a rationalist. In his time, such things as the structure of hydrogen atoms (or any atoms), nucleosynthesis, black holes, or the theory of evolution were totally unknown. That lack forced a belief in some sort of creator on a rational man. Had he had that knowledge, he very likely would have been an atheist. Because given that knowledge, THAT becomes rational. Superstition becomes unnecessary.