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To: Lane3 who wrote (52722)7/8/2002 5:43:37 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
What would be your definition of "establishment of religion"?

Tim



To: Lane3 who wrote (52722)7/8/2002 7:05:47 PM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
In my mind, the Pledge is only establishment in the context that it represents the dominant religion. If it didn't, if it said, instead, under Allah, then it wouldn't be establishment. However, we have to recognize that there's no way that Congress would ever support adding "under Allah" to the Pledge. That is simply because it isn't the dominant religion. So the salient aspect of this is the context of the dominant religion.

Islam, Judaism and Christianity share the same God so "under God" is respectful to all three.

Do Islam, Christianity And Judaism Have Different Origins?

"No. The original, unchanged revelations given to Abrahamic and other prophets reaching back to Adam all came from the One True God. This common origin explains their similarities in many beliefs and values.

Abraham is mentioned in the Qur'an as one of the great Prophets and was honored with the title, "Friend of God." Abraham and his eldest son, Ishmael, were commanded by God to build a place of worship, the Ka'bah, in what is today the city of Makkah, Saudi Arabia.

The Ka'bah is a simple stone construction erected as a sanctuary for the worship of the One God. The Qur'an states that God commanded Abraham to summon all humankind to visit this place, and when pilgrims go there today they say "At your service, O Lord," in response to Abraham's call. The Ka'bah is the central place of worship toward which all Muslims face in prayer to God, Almighty."

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To: Lane3 who wrote (52722)7/9/2002 11:23:01 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Actually, that is wrong. The generic term is "God". Referring to Jehovah, Yaweh, Elohim, the Master of the Universe, Emmanuel, Jesus Christ, Brahma, Trimurti, or Allah specifies a religious tradition, but God is neutral, and can be used to characterize the Supreme Deity even of a pagan, polytheistic tradition, such as Zeus.