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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (275804)	7/15/2002 11:43:21 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Any "sacred honor" is in conflict, by my definition, to your purposeful unwillingness to use meaningful mutual syntax, and use of content-free slander and vilification A further example to clarify the definition of "sacred honor": Do you think Oliver North was a hero or a criminal when he performed acts contrary to the laws of the United States, and, further, lied and subverted investigations into these acts? That, my friend, is corruption of one's sacred honor, in this case to his oath as a Marine and loyalty as an American. What is your answer? Here is an excerpt, to refresh your memory. This will help clarify the distinction you and I may have of "sacred honor": "...the sources for all of the following information are the "Report of the Congressional Committees Investigating the Iran-Contra Affair," published by the New York Times [Times Books, 1988], and two "PBS Frontline" broadcasts with Bill Moyers, one aired in 1987 and another in 1990. January 20, 2000 \| The hundreds of millions of dollars in U. S. weapons Ronald Reagan and his team sold to Iran made the Iranian military more dangerous to U. S. naval forces stationed in the Persian Gulf after 1987. Those weapons gave aid to a sworn U. S. enemy. Reagan and Oliver North told the committees investigating Iran-Contra that the world is a dangerous place. They defended their right to conduct secret operations by claiming they were protecting the U. S. from foreign enemies. In reality, they were aiding foreign enemies, making the world an even more dangerous place for American soldiers and civilians. When Reagan came to office, Iranian fanatics had already seized the U. S. embassy in Tehran. A year before Reagan took office, Washington declared Iran a terrorist nation. American law then prohibited Iran from receiving U. S. arms. The Iranian regime publicly declared the U. S. an enemy and referred to America as "the great Satan." The regime also called for "death to the great Satan, America." On June 30, 1985, Ronald Reagan himself said Iran was part of "a confederation of terrorist states." However on January 17, 1986, Reagan wrote in his diary, "I agreed to sell TOWs (tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided antitank missiles) to Iran." (Both Reagan quotes from: Tim Weiner, "Blank Check," 1990.) Ronald Reagan repeatedly promised the American people he was being tough on terrorism. However, behind our backs, he kept selling weapons to the terrorist nation Iran, in violation of U. S. law. Regarding the Iranian assault on our embassy in Beirut, Reagan said, "Let me further make it plain to the assassins in Beirut and their accomplices wherever they may be, that America will never make concessions to terrorists." Reagan was lying. He continued to make concessions and sell arms to Iran. Oliver North supported Reagan's lies. When North eventually went before the Senate committee, he told committee members he would have done anything the president told him to do. Senator and World War II combat hero Daniel Inouye told North, "The uniform code makes it abundantly clear that it must be the lawful orders of a superior officer [one obeys]. In fact [the military code] says that military officers have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders."

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (275804)	7/15/2002 11:53:00 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I think what MSI is pointing out-intentionally or not-is that concepts like honor, dedication to duty, and patriotism are both a joke, and somewhat obscene, to MSI. That, of course, is exactly the kind of sentiment that MAKES a liberal...