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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (143884)	7/18/2002 10:15:17 AM
From: John Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

R.D.Buschman,re:"now that you are inside,..close the door behind you". See, this country is 'defenseless' with argument like this. If 'rapidly' didn't mean a thing to you or anyone else, I think it's God/Allah/Buddha/etc... doing 'doodle' to USA. But, I take it as the 'nature force' to take care of thing and render this great country both defendless and 'hopeless'(too strong maybe). Don't use 'extreme cases' to normalize your rationale.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (143884)	7/18/2002 10:35:17 AM
From: Slumdog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>>such an open, welcoming, tolerant, and free nation that opened its doors to your parents or grandparents or great grandparents so you could enjoy this land of freedom and opportunity.<< RD, what about that little slavery thing?

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (143884)	7/18/2002 11:06:54 AM
From: Slumdog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>>such an open, welcoming, tolerant, and free nation that opened its doors to your parents or grandparents or great grandparents<< That'll getcha the big raspberry, RD. You fixed it up real good. .......segregation by law dates from the founding of the nation and was particularly widespread in the South for about 80 years, before the courts and the Congress of the United States prohibited legally sanctioned segregation in the 1950s and 1960s. At the end of the 20th century, de facto segregation remained a problem in many places in the United States. De facto segregation has resulted from residential housing patterns, economic factors, personal choice, "white flight" from central cities, and private, and often illegal, discrimination by home owners, real estate agents, and lending institutions. The results are often segregated neighborhoods, and consequently segregated schools, recreational facilities, and other public and private institutions.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (143884)	7/18/2002 11:20:42 AM
From: Slumdog	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

>>Nonsense. The United States has a long history of "mixing it up"<< Assimilation was never a viable choice for Chinese Americans, who were excluded and denied citizenship because they were deemed nonassimilable by the white mainstream. By congressional and judicial decisions, the Chinese immigrants were made ineligible for naturalization, which made them politically disenfranchised in a "so-called democracy" and exposing them to violations of their Constitutional rights. Legally discriminated against and politically disenfranchised, Chinese Americans established their roots in Chinatowns, fought racism through aggressive litigation and participated with active roles in economic development projects and political movements to modernize China. Assimilation was seen as an impossibility. In the nineteenth century, most Chinese immigrants saw no future in the United States for themselves. With this mentality, they developed a high degree of tolerance for hardship and racial discrimination and maintained an efficient Chinese lifestyle. This included living modestly, observing Chinese customs and festivals through family associations, sending consistent remittance to parents, wives, and children. Parents tried to drill Chinese language and culture into their children, send them to Chinese schools in the community or in China, motivate them to excel in American education, and above all arrange marriages. The Chinese also joined social organizations and family associations that represented collective interests and well-being of persons with the same family names. These organizations acted to arbitrate disputes, help find jobs and housing, establish schools and temples, and sponsor social and cultural events. Their activities brought mixed blessings to the community. At times, these organizations became too powerful and oppressive, and they also obstructed social and political progress.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (143884)	7/18/2002 1:56:02 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>> Just based on your name, you are on crawford's list as well and he would not hesitate to take your home and possessions, toss you back into a boat and cast you adrift (or perhaps just put you in a "camp" until you die). << you're not helping your credibility here mr buschman. remember your advice about when you assume, you make an... never have i suggested that anyone who has a legal right to be here in this country (no matter their nationality) should have their possessions seized, and their bags packed. >> Angel indeed. No, I'm sure his master resides in the << lucifer is a fallen angel you dope.