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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (619)	7/20/2002 11:33:35 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 3959

1,700 Palestinian administrative detainees in Israeli prisons 17 July 2002 The Palestinian Society for the Protection of Human Rights and the Environment Conditions in Israeli detention centers and prisons deteriorate daily. The number of Palestinian administrative detainees is on the rise, with 1,700 Palestinians currently in administratie detention, also known as internment, the imprisonment of individuals without charge or trial. Israel has increased its arbitrary use of this measure. Before September 2000, there were only nine Palestinian administrative detainees. Early this month, seventy Palestinian administrative detainees received renewed sentences. The number of Palestinian administrative detainees rose sharply from nine by the end of the year 2000 to 54 before the recent Israeli military invasions. Israel has opened new detention centers such as 'Ofer in Beitunia, near Ramallah, and Huwara, near Nablus. Additionally, Israel reopened Ansar III, which is located in a closed military zone in the Negev desert, not far from the Egyptian border. This military detention center was closed after the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993. Israeli prison authorities continue to fail to ensure that detainees reveive adequate medical care. Around 55 administrative detainees are denied access to medical care. Orders, in the case of administrative detention, come from Israeli military officers in charge of security issues in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, except for East Jerusalem. An administrative detainee is sentenced to a certain period, previously three months, however, the period is subject to extension to an indefinite period. Israel has used this measure against Palestinian detainees whom they failed to prove guilty or had no intention to try at a court of law. With so many Palestinians having been administratively detained it appears that the Israeli authorities have used this measure indiscriminately, and made little attempt to have their practices in this area conform with international law. When a detainee is sentenced to administrative detention, the sentencing does not come from a judge in a court session unless the sentence exceeds six months. The number of Palestinian administrative detainees during the first Intifada totaled 15,000, however, most of them were released in the aftermath of the Oslo Accords.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (619)	7/20/2002 11:50:21 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 3959

Emile, your post is from a Palestenian news source and obviously just like other similar sources it is expected that it will present any situation in a manner that is favorable to their position. I am sure that if you read a Israeli newspaper it will say the opposite. But what we are all curious to know is what should be done to stop the killing in both the Palestenian territories as well as in Israel. Why is the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and the Hezbollah not seen by the normal Palestenian as one that is also the cause of their misery along with the Israeli army occupation? Why are we silent on that. Don't you think we all peace loving and sane people should speak out in one voice even against the Hamas. Who is going to do that if it is not you, me and others. After all we want a solution and not finger pointing. I know that the IDF is subjected to a war crimes tribunal in the International courts if they commit crimes against civilian population such as genocide etc. Is it your opinion that Hamas, Islamic Jihad etc. are also subjected to the same laws of a civilized society such as Palestenian. If they are, then why does not the Palestenians bring them to justice and send a message that "we, the Palestenians are a nation of laws even though we do not have nationhood yet. We have that pride in us to remain loyal to a set of laws, in spite of us not being a nation." May I ask you to see how Gandhi staged his struggle to gain independence for India. His notion of a martyr is totally different from a martyr that Mr. Arafat thinks. Gandhi would go down fighting without firing a single bullet back. He would shame his enemy into conceding. After all we all are humans, Americans, British, Jewish, Russians, Hindus, Chinese or what have you. We all are capable of being shamed into our actions and thereby be forced to concede. The Israelis can be shamed into conceding a Palestenian peace if Arafat and other Palestenian leaders follow the path of Gandhi and Martin Luther King. Not intifada. That was relevant during the times of Islam's founding. It is no longer relevant today. Curious to know what you think. I hope I have not attacked you personally and that I have succeeded in keeping it at a level that is purely an exchange of ideas, views and thoughts. I would only hope that we can keep off personal attacks on this thread.