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To: Mani1 who wrote (85441)	7/20/2002 3:13:30 PM
From: kapkan4u	Respond to of 275872

<The problem is now everyone and their mother is talking about capitulation which means it won't happen. The market will hit bottom when all the people waiting for capitulation, capitulate themselves.> Thats right. CNBC itself would have to close shop before I commit any money long, save few quick trades.

To: Mani1 who wrote (85441)	7/20/2002 6:08:57 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 275872

RE:"The problem is now everyone and their mother is talking about capitulation which means it won't happen. The market will hit bottom when all the people waiting for capitulation, capitulate themselves :). Maybe we can get a "black monday" and dow 7200 on Monday" NOT necessarily. This market is different that 1987. Today the public is a lot more involved. In 1987 there was more institutional trading. Program trading go a lot of blame for black monday. If the public continues to redeem mutual fund shares and stocks then 390 point down days aren't over. Jim