To: tcmay who wrote (34171 ) 7/24/2002 4:53:59 AM From: Doren Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 213182 OT Tim, The planet Vega has: Less Doctors, no need for stents, bypass surgery or high blood pressure medication. Vegans have few cases of cancer or stroke. NO cases of Mad Cow disease. Since Vegans do not eat animals we do not consume the rainbow of drugs that are now given to animals to compensate for the effects of “factory” farming in crowded fecal packed, unhealthy enclosures or the growth hormones given to increase profits. Those are just a couple of the many drugs factory animals contain. I won’t even get into cattle feed other than to remind you that it contains ground cattle and other animal "by products". Vegans do not usually enjoy drugs or alcohol but have sex longer and more frequently. 8vP We also live longer than carrion feeding Carnivores (planet Carniv). The largest polluter on Vega is not the Cattle industry as it is in the United States. Cattle are not grown on huge mounds of fecal matter as they are on Carnivore (you can smell them for miles). Nitrogens and factory chemicals from such mounds leech into the ground water. Calves are not grown chained in dark boxes (veal, terrible stuff). Chickens do not have their beaks clipped off and are not stuffed 12 to a cage (very small cages). We do not eat the entrails, ears brains and other waste ground into ‘hot dogs’ or sausages. Vegans do not have to smell slaughter houses. Vegans do not miss anything when it comes to food. Both myself and my girlfriend are good cooks and enjoy a wide variety of herbs, spices, teas and other healthy, humane, inexpensive vegetable products. One nice side effect is my girlfriend smells and tastes better than most other women I've known (except the other vegans), and she’s good looking to boot. Neither of us is overweight, I'm 49 and walk right up mountains, and she's 35 but looks much younger. She prefers a good inexpensive veggie restaurant to an overpriced unhealthy "good" restaurant. Since I've been a vegetarian for many years now, the thought of an unhealthy fatty burger is no more appealing than a can of congealed fat poured off a frying pan. I doubt I could get one down without gagging. We have no problem finding food. Since I used to work in restaurants I know the quality of the food is usually crappy even in "good" restaurants that are meat oriented. Even the vegetables are canned (usually by SE Rykoff, barf the worst). The restaurants I frequent are inexpensive, run by ethical health conscious people and serve beautiful, highly tasty food in large quantities. They do not slash and burn and destroy the rainforests in South America to grow burgers 5 cents a pound cheaper (rainforests that should produce the air your children and grandchildren will need to breath). By the way, I’ve never heard of a case of a vegetarian not getting enough protein. It’s simply not a problem. It's kind of like the difference between Macs and PCs. Please note: ConAgra is recalling 18.6 million pounds of ground beef after the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) detected the presence of Escherichia coli O157:H7 (E. coli)kroger.com "Kroger has stringent quality control and food safety programs in place to ensure the quality and safety of the meat products sold at its stores. These programs include employee training in procedures designed to minimize or eliminate the risk of contamination at every step in the preparation and display of meat items." Yeah, sure, another giant corporation that really cares... Did anyone see the show 60 Minutes (?) did about re-dated meat sold by supermarkets? Pretty sure they nailed Kroger for consistantly re-dating.