To: Jerome who wrote (60459 ) 7/25/2002 5:40:50 PM From: RetiredNow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400 OT NO, I don't think it's EVER OK to kill civilians for any reason or justification. What the Israelis did was not only heavy handed, but was down right imbecilic and immoral. However, my point is that by the same token, the Palestinians and many of the complicit Arabs surrounding Israel are every bit as heavy handed, imbecilic, immoral, and murderous. You see the terrorists are SPECIFICALLY TARGETING Israeli civilians every day. Israel for the most part has tried to show restraint, especially given the fact that they could go out there and really lay waste to the Palestinians. However, imagine what the U.S. reaction would be if we had to deal with daily suicide bombings? We lose 3,000 people in the 9/11 bombings and we kill twice that number in Afghanistan (including many innocents) and depose the government of an entire nation. In addition, we make plans to depose another government (Iraq) as part of that war. If we were attacked daily by suicide bombers, you can bet the U.S. will become extraordinarily murderous and make the Israelis look like saints in comparison. What? You don't believe me? I have two words for you: Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We threw the bombs because we didn't think the Japanese would ever quit. Remind you of the suicide bombers? Those countries who fund the terrorists and militant destabilizers (Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia) may find themselves in a similar position if they persist in their antisocial and antidemocratic ways. So my point is this. I love this country and I still think we are the best of the best, but let's not kid ourselves. We are a mean, vengeful, and ruthless people when someone rouses our anger. That's the American way. Of course, we have the other 50% that marches in protest, but the fact is, we don't tread too lightly when we're attacked. We act ruthlessly first and apologize and spread money around later. So cut the Israelis a break. They've been dealing with this shit for 50 years. No wonder they lose the temper occassionally. You want someone to get mad at, blame the Wahhabi culture that breeds half-wits willing to throw their lives away on an evil cause while murdering innocent civilians including babies and children. They and their ilk are using the Palestinians as puppets in their larger game of establishing a worldwide Islamic order based on their moronic, medieval beliefs. They are the ones who deserve yours and everyone else's ire.