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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (1239)8/3/2002 5:22:37 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3959
 
Who are the racists?

Accusations of "anti-Semitism" in the Egyptian press do not stand up to scrutiny, writes Ibrahim Nafie

In Egypt we are used to the insidious attacks on our politicians and intellectuals unleashed by the US Zionist lobby in coordination with Zionist groups in Europe. The most salient common denominator of these campaigns is the spurious charge of anti-Semitism. And that the Egyptian press is laden with material deliberately intended to foment hatred of Jews is one of the most often repeated accusations.

As Mubarak himself has frequently pointed out, the Arabs are Semites too, rendering the allegation of anti-Semitism against us a contradiction in terms. But even on the basis of the term's imputation of racism the charge cannot stand. Racism is a mode of behaviour based on the tendency to attribute to certain ethnic groups certain intrinsic and immutable traits. Certainly, this definition does not apply to the Egyptian media, in which the bulk of what has been branded as "anti-Semitic" are, in fact, criticisms of Israeli policy and condemnations of the practices of the Israeli occupation forces.

Simultaneously, we can easily come up with dozens of utterances by political and religious leaders in Israel that fit the definition of racism to the core. Here, however, the racism is directed against Arabs, both Muslim and Christian. The hypocrisy of this situation is deplorable and demands a firm stance.
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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (1239)8/3/2002 8:36:32 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3959
 
Chinu. Are you still of the opinion that the islam religion is good and that the good muslims have nothing to do with the worlds problems. France is starting to wake up a little to late. The muslims will get what they want in France because they know that terrorism works very well for them. Look what they did in USA. This is not picking on the muslim/islam religion this is fact.

Lots more muslim reading from fellow SI poster here.

France
Still hopes to create Muslim goverenment council.
7-15-02
Need for dialogue between France and resident Muslims has become apparent.

After 2 1/2 years of talks answers cannot be found. The conflict appears among France's Muslims themselves.

Elections leading to the creation of the Muslim Council of France were twice postponed because of bickering between mosques. The power struggles are undermining the government's desire to create an Islamic France, and the hope of bringing millions of Islamic immigrants into France's political mainstream.

France has Europe's largest Muslim community - about 5 million - half of whom are not French citizens. Ms. Mignon, in charge of the talks, says that fundamentalism remains a danger: "If we fail to integrate Islam into French society, then radical Islam will flourish, she hopes to set up elections to the Islamic council by November.

Muslims are demanding many concerns be addressed on the national level in order to "welcome Islam more appropriately":

public schools to serve only non-pork dishes
subsidize the market for Halal meat
all municipal cemeteries to follow Muslim burial practices and time tables
power to grant their own permits to build mosques
more political seats

1905 French law separates church and state, forbids government financing of religion,
so mosques are built with cash from Morocco, Algeria, and Saudi Arabia creating a delicate situation for the French government.

France
PARIS - France's Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy warned Muslim leaders Thursday that the government would not tolerate any rise in fundamentalism as they struggled to pick representatives for their Muslim community.

Ethnic and religious splits in France's Muslim population, the largest in Western Europe, have so far deadlocked attempts to bind together all Muslims in a national organization like those that French Catholics, Protestants and Jews have accomplished here in France.

He warned that Islamic fundamentalists should not be allowed to hijack the process, as some fear will eventually happen.

"My responsibility as an elected official and minister is to prevent the Republic from supporting fundamentalism," he said, according to a copy of his speech: "Muslim Fundamentalism isolates, prevents individual fulfillment and divides society."
06/20/02

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