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To: TobagoJack who wrote (22360)	8/7/2002 8:52:09 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Jay, they realized that this place is actually NOT free. <what would your explanation be for the HK folks who settled in New Zealand, got their passport, and then returned to Hong Kong? > They also find living in a weird place not all that attractive, but surrounding me [in our suburb, Epsom] are thousands of people who have NOT returned and most do not return to live in Hong Kong. Seriously, we are drowning under regulation and bureaucracy with the well-intended Resource Management Act stopping people doing nearly everything and making it difficult and expensive for those who struggle through the system, usually after years. If NZ is number 3 on the freedom list, it is a pitiful commentary on the state of the planet. We are experiencing real-time dark ages and it's just that it's not as bad as it was that makes us think it's okay. Many from Hong Kong and Taiwan used NZ as a stepping stone to Australia, but Oz got onto that trick after a while and shut the door. If things turn bad in Hong Kong, it's also handy to have a bolt hole [NZ being the equivalent of your Trinidad I guess]. Anyway, each country is attractive according to individual needs and the idea of one being somehow 'better' than others is a very approximate representation of reality. For now, this place is okay for me. Mqurice