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To: kumar who wrote (37365)8/12/2002 6:33:23 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
In thinking about 9/11, I tend to think in terms of Oklahoma,

Then you might want to reconsider your thinking process (no offense).

Because this was more than just a "lone terrorist" event like OKC.

And you might want to think about how the USSR and KGB organized, integrated and coordinated, various terrorist activities between various disparate groups. That's why Japanese Red Army factions conducted terrorist attacks in Israel (Lod Airport 1972) and their attempt to take over the US embassy in Kuala Lumpur, while being based and trained in the Bekaa valley.

That's why two members of the German Baader-Meinhof gang were involved in the Palestinian hijacking which ended in the raid on Entebbe (both were killed).

That's why Carlos the Jackal, despite being Venezuelan by birth, worked with any number of terrorist groups as a hired gun, mainly against Jews, and affiliated himself with the PFLP, after making acquaintances at Moscow's Patrice Lamumba "university" (a popular recruiting ground for indoctrinating and training insurgents and terrorists).

And that's why he took many of his directions from Wadi Haddad, founder of the PFLP, who took his directions from his KGB handlers in Moscow.

The fact is that many of the major terrorists groups over the past 30 years were trained by the PLO or PLFP, or affliates. And where it was the KGB who previously guided many of their actions, it's not so clear whether Al-Qaeda filled a void created by their departure, or has become another "cut-out" between Russia and the groups they formerly supported.

But you shouldn't ever fall prey to the belief that these terrorist groups don't cooperate with one another. At the very least, there has been strong evidence that one group will perform the "casing" for an attack to be committed by another group.

No Kumar.. this was an act of war. A war declared by the leader of Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, declared back in 1996-97. And since Al-Qaeda cannot exist without support from various nations who provide it safe haven and financial support, one must presume that their actions represent proxy attacks by the leaders of those nations.

If you don't want to admit that this was an act of war, I guess I really would like to know what constitutes such act in your eyes. After all, if I hired someone to kill someone else, and provide the gun, money, and a safe house to operate from, is it not the case that I'm still guilty of soliciting and committing murder??

"Well, your honor... I didn't murder that person.. The killer was just staying with me for awhile".

Come on...

Hawk