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To: Bilow who wrote (37702)	8/13/2002 7:47:46 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It would take too long to do, plus I don't think that Debka has available archives. While the recently intensified Israeli/Palestinian conflict was hotter, it was a decent source. I'm not trying to convince you or win an argument, simply setting forth my views.

To: Bilow who wrote (37702)	8/13/2002 10:35:28 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 281500

Show me some news that Debka released (a) before anyone else, (b) that was militarily significant, and (c) that turned out to be true. I don't give a hang about Israeli politics or where Hamas is planning to vacation. I want news that predicts who (which nation's armed forces) is going to do what (significant military action) to whom. Well, most of what debka reports on is Israeli or Palestinian, so you are not caring about a lot of stuff. From memory, since debka doesn't have archives, debka reported in December that many Al Qaeda had slipped from Tora Bora into Pakistan (including OBL they said), and others were being given safe passage via Iran back home into Saudi Arabia. Months later, we saw confirmation of both these reports. Starting last fall, Debka reported that despite appearances and denials, Saudi Arabia would give us no cooperation on the War on Terror, and they haven't. Debka reported that Hizbullah was building lines of missiles in Lebanon, and through Imad Mugnieh was increasing its cooperation both with Al Qaeda fighters and with Hamas. Other sources have since confirmed this, as have the more advanced Palestinian attacks against Merkava tanks. Debka reported that the IDF had developed "tunneling" techniques that it was using to attack the guerilla bases in Palestinian refugee camps, and that the technique worked, so that the refugee camps were no longer "no go" areas, before the fight in Jenin confirmed it. Debka recently reported that the Turks captured an airbase in northen Iraq, and American bases have been set up in eastern Jordan, others confirmed it.