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To: maceng2 who wrote (37988)8/15/2002 4:02:47 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Holy f**king cow!!! No wonder MacCarthy started the witch hunt.

Harry Dexter White, also in the Roosevelt administration, and the American architect of the IMF and the World Bank (Keynes was the British counterpart), was also a spy for Stalin.

As was Alger Hiss, an influential government lawyer during the Roosevelt administration, who helped set up the United Nations, and advised Roosevelt at the Yalta Conference (with Churchill and Stalin.)

www-hoover.stanford.edu

MacCarthy was right that the government had spies, but he went about it the wrong way, attacking celebrities just for their beliefs.

Isn't it odd that the IMF, the World Bank, and the United Nations, all globalizing institutions, were set up by spies for Stalin? One might find it creepy if one were a conspiracy theorist.;^)



To: maceng2 who wrote (37988)8/15/2002 4:13:29 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Well, it was Orwell who stated that

"If you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever ......"

This came up in a PM discussion I was having the other day.

Hawk



To: maceng2 who wrote (37988)8/15/2002 4:55:29 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Harry L. Hopkins, a KGB agent,

I looked for evidence of this, could never find any, and it did not show up in the "Verona" intercepts. I would like to think so, but there is no evidence.



To: maceng2 who wrote (37988)8/15/2002 6:41:18 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Pearly_Button; Re: "We are determined that nothing shall stop us from sharing with you all that we have."

Ignoring the moral issues of the regime (which are not always evident to the recipient of armed conflict), isn't it a fact that those who feel Democracy should be spread by force would say the same thing?

-- Carl



To: maceng2 who wrote (37988)8/16/2002 3:47:39 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Holy f**king cow!!! No wonder MacCarthy started the witch hunt. In this country MacCarthy has a bad name because he gave some movie stars a hard time. Other then that I know nothing of him.

McCarthy was a creep, and I don't think you'll find anyone leaping to his defense. But many in the media and the academy have made the "red scare" out to be nothing more than paranoia and a bunch of overly patriotic wierdos out to get some Leftie intellectuals. Fact of the matter was, the American Communist Party was an active recruiting ground into the 50's for the KGB, which had long penetrated the United States government. The extent of Soviet espionage was not a delusion.

Derek