To: John Madarasz who wrote (50539 ) 8/17/2002 4:18:31 PM From: skinowski Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 209892 Not bad, John, for a ‘stream of consciousness’… I’ve tried to do some of that yesterday in a post. Pasting here: “With this recent advance, it seems that we are dealing with a different kind of an animal. That’s why there is more confusion. The rallies out of Christmas 2000, out of April 2001 and Sept. 2001, were kind of pretty, with a strong move up, then a nice slowly rounding top, and than a gradual acceleration into a new low. This current rally is more sharp-edged, sort of harsh and ugly… Hope we don’t have to start getting used to them. On the other hand, they would be more 'Elliottian', in a sense. “ If you look at a daily chart of the DOW in 1930-32, there were several rallies then, lasting from a couple of weeks to over 2 months, which, at least to this observer, were ‘esthetically’ very reminiscent of this current advance. They were sharp and angular, some were flats, some complex. Looking at them, I think it would have been be extremely difficult at any given time during those rallies to identify final tops. Probably impossible. This is why recently I have been mentioning waiting for a break of an important support line to signify an end to such a rally. Taking it a little further, the DOW and the broader markets just recently broke important supports, like the neckline on the SP500 multi-year H@S. Would it be surprising if the Bear at this point would decide to change the “look” of the corrections? The Nasdaq in the end is only a big sector. Perhaps now, when the decline broadens, and when it threatens to hit closer to home, the character of the countertrend rallies MUST change. All this is just an impressionist bunch of stuff, and fwiw, of course. One of the better daily charts I found via google turned out to be on Paul’s web site cache.wsrn.com AA has a good weekly geocities.com But to see it better you need one which is detailed, or a PDF (?) with the zoom feature. Maybe someone can post.