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To: ptanner who wrote (87433)	8/22/2002 2:46:00 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Van Smith tests Athlon XP 2600 vs. Dell Dimension 340, which uses PC-800 RDRAM: vanshardware.com which brings up a question. Did Intel decide to support PC-1066 RDRAM? I seem to recall that at the time of 850E chipset (which supports 133MHz FSB), PC-1066 was not supported, but some motherboard makers provide support / timing for it on their motherboards. Anyway, this review shows that Dell systems are dogs (a big difference from early Dell days, when Dell systems were generally performance leaders), since in other reviews, the performance of P4 2.56 and AXP 2600 is similar, but in Anand's tests, AXP 2600 consistently outperforms P4. Joe

To: ptanner who wrote (87433)	8/22/2002 3:26:52 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

Re: I count eight Serverworks chipsets and these probably have a far greater range of variables than the Hammer series of system configurations. But these sell into a high volume of products Most workstation/servers are still sold with Intel motherboards, using Intel or serverworks chipsets. The remaining non-Intel board servers (25% of the market?) use Intel, Serverworks, or Via chipsets(yes, via makes a number of SMP chipsets for the Intel platform). Particularly considering that P4 requires a new platform at roughly 9 month intervals, some of the the Iwill, MSI, Tyan, Supermicro or Asus boards using some of these chipsets probably have run rate in the tens of thousands, at best. So it can't cost all that much to run a validation of a given board, especially if a good reference design is available. Amazing that P4 3ghz will need yet another motherboard redesign to provide different power characteristics - none of the existing boards can support P4's that will come out late this year or early next year. I wonder if they'll change the socket, again, or if they'll rely on no one putting the wrong chip on the wrong board. Considering how much greater Intel's resources are than AMD's, it's amazing that they consistently do worse when it comes to platform design, having to re-design their systems over and over again. (how many recalled rambus motherboards, 3 going on 4 socket designs in 3 years for P4, etc.)