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To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 9:55:21 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21057
 
Secret Court Rebuffs Ashcroft
Justice Dept. Chided On Misinformation

By Dan Eggen and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, August 23, 2002; Page A01

The secretive federal court that approves spying on terror suspects in the United States has refused to give the Justice Department broad new powers, saying the government had misused the law and misled the court dozens of times, according to an extraordinary legal ruling released yesterday.

A May 17 opinion by the court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) alleges that Justice Department and FBI officials supplied erroneous information to the court in more than 75 applications for search warrants and wiretaps, including one signed by then-FBI Director Louis J. Freeh.

Authorities also improperly shared intelligence information with agents and prosecutors handling criminal cases in New York on at least four occasions, the judges said.

The department discovered the misrepresentations and reported them to the FISA court beginning in 2000.

Given such problems, the court found that new procedures proposed by Attorney General John D. Ashcroft in March would have given prosecutors too much control over counterintelligence investigations and would have effectively allowed the government to misuse intelligence information for criminal cases, according to the ruling.

The dispute between the Justice Department and the FISA court, which has raged behind closed doors until yesterday, strikes at the heart of Ashcroft's attempts since Sept. 11 to allow investigators in terrorism and espionage to share more information with criminal investigators.

Generally, the Justice Department must seek the FISA court's permission to give prosecutors of criminal cases any information gathered by the FBI in an intelligence investigation. Ashcroft had proposed that criminal-case prosecutors be given routine access to such intelligence information, and that they be allowed to direct intelligence investigations as well as criminal investigations.

The FISA court agreed with other proposed rule changes. But Ashcroft filed an appeal yesterday over the rejected procedures that would constitute the first formal challenge to the FISA court in its 23-year history, officials said.

"We believe the court's action unnecessarily narrowed the Patriot Act and limited our ability to fully utilize the authority Congress gave us," the Justice Department said in a statement.

The documents released yesterday also provide a rare glimpse into the workings of the almost entirely secret FISA court, composed of a rotating panel of federal judges from around the United States and, until yesterday, had never jointly approved the release of one of its opinions. Ironically, the Justice Department itself had opposed the release.

Stewart Baker, former general counsel of the National Security Agency, called the opinion a "a public rebuke.

"The message is you need better quality control," Baker said. "The judges want to ensure they have information they can rely on implicitly."

A senior Justice Department official said that the FISA court has not curtailed any investigations that involved misrepresented or erroneous information, nor has any court suppressed evidence in any related criminal case. He said that many of the misrepresentations were simply repetitions of earlier errors, because wiretap warrants must be renewed every 90 days. The FISA court approves about 1,000 warrants a year.

Enacted in the wake of the domestic spying scandals of the Nixon era, the FISA statute created a secret process and secret court to review requests to wiretap phones and conduct searches aimed at spies, terrorists and other U.S. enemies.

FISA warrants have been primarily aimed at intelligence-gathering rather than investigating crimes. But Bush administration officials and many leading lawmakers have complained since Sept. 11 that such limits hampered the ability of officials to investigate suspected terrorists, including alleged hijacking conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui.

The law requires agents to be able to show probable cause that the subject of the search is an agent of a foreign government or terrorist group, and authorizes strict limits on distribution of information because the standards for obtaining FISA warrants are much lower than for traditional criminal warrants.

In Moussaoui's case, the FBI did not seek an FISA warrant to search his laptop computer and other belongings in the weeks prior to the Sept. 11 attacks because some officials believed that they could not adequately show the court Moussaoui's connection to a foreign terrorist group.

The USA Patriot Act, a set of anti-terrorism measures passed last fall, softened the standards for obtaining intelligence warrants, requiring that foreign intelligence be a significant, rather than primary, purpose of the investigation. The FISA court said in its ruling that the new law was not relevant to its decision.

Despite its rebuke, the court left the door open for a possible solution, noting that its decision was based on the existing FISA statute and that lawmakers were free to update the law if they wished.

Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee have indicated their willingness to enact such reforms but have complained about resistance from Ashcroft. Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) said yesterday's release was a "ray of sunshine" compared to a "lack of cooperation" from the Bush administration.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), another committee member, said the legal opinion will "help us determine what's wrong with the FISA process, including what went wrong in the Zacarias Moussaoui case. The stakes couldn't be higher for our national security at home and abroad."

The ruling, signed by the court's previous chief, U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth, was released by the new presiding judge, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly.

FBI and Justice Department officials have said that the fear of being rejected by the FISA court, complicated by disputes such as those revealed yesterday, has at times caused both FBI and Justice officials to take a cautious approach to intelligence warrants.

Until the current dispute, the FISA court had approved all but one application sought by the government since the court's inception. Civil libertarians claim that record shows that the court is a rubber stamp for the government; proponents of stronger law enforcement say the record reveals a timid bureaucracy only willing to seek warrants on sure winners.

The opinion itself -- and the court's unprecedented decision to release it -- suggest that relations between the court and officials at the Justice Department and the FBI have frayed badly.

FISA applications are voluminous documents, containing boilerplate language as well as details specific to each circumstance. The judges did not say the misrepresentations were intended to mislead the court, but said that in addition to erroneous statements, important facts have been omitted from some FISA applications.

In one case, the FISA judges were so angered by inaccuracies in affidavits submitted by FBI agent Michael Resnick that they barred him from ever appearing before the court, according to the ruling and government sources.

Referring to "the troubling number of inaccurate FBI affidavits in so many FISA applications," the court said in its opinion: "In virtually every instance, the government's misstatements and omissions in FISA applications and violations of the Court's orders involved information sharing and unauthorized disseminations to criminal investigators and prosecutors."

The judges were also clearly perturbed at a lack of answers about the problems from the Justice Department, which is still conducting an internal investigation into the lapses.

"How these misrepresentations occurred remains unexplained to the court," the opinion said.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company



To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 10:44:42 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21057
 
I don't see any need to explain myself any further. I have made no secret of what I find objectionable about TP's "free speech". All rights, including the right to free speech should be exercised responsibly....I do not equate "free speech" with retailing outright lies and libels, distorting news articles and the unfounded imputations of criminal activity by our government officials connected to the war effort, all for a petty partisan purpose, to be protected speech. Fair criticism based upon the facts, like criticism of the TIPS program, for instance, is another matter. But that is not what TP is doing and the undermining of this Administration while we are at war should be of concern to all of us. Such statements provide aid and comfort to our enemies, the people who want to kill us solely for being Americans...... Publishing such garbage as TP posts solely because your guy lost the last election is really quite despicable...



To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 11:47:31 AM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057
 
I (SURPRISE!) agree with JLA. TP is a waste of time and bandwidth. He really contributes anything of any worth. He does the equivalent of tossing a stinkbomb into the room and running. He twists and turns anything, literally anything, to try to come with an angle with which to attack Bush and the GOP. Mostly what he comes up with patently absurd and gross stupidity. It is hard to believe even he is stupid enough to believe it.

Were it not for that header, I would have kicked his butt out long ago. He contributes nothing but noise.



To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 12:22:32 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 21057
 
Here's an opinion from someone I think you would not claim is grinding a partisan ax. And I think he states the case well, too.
Message 17910579



To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 12:25:13 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057
 
Here's an opinion from someone I think you would not claim is grinding a partisan ax. And I think he states the case well, too.
Message 17910579

I'm disturbed, being a free speech fan, and really want to see the posts you and others felt warranted silencing the poster.
May I point that this is going through the process that was intended for these things? There are no heavy-handed rightwing thugs wandering the thread beating opponents into silence?



To: E who wrote (19703)8/23/2002 12:51:34 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 21057
 
TP is not here to discuss issues, bat around ideas, debate politics, share recipes, or hang out with buddies. He's here to snipe away with his pet issues: Bush's fraudulent election; his Saudi pipeline; his AWOL and cocaine; Richard Mellon Scaife; Clarence Thomas; etc.

Personally, I enjoy the debate on issues and relish the creativity and humor of the many heated strings of posts on many topics. But TP provides no opportunity to bounce issues around. He is a sniper. His words are destructive and seem designed to undermine the war effort. And often he makes things up as he goes along.

Many of his posts contain "information" which turns out not to have been true or in the link provided. Here are a few examples.

Message 17378157
Message 17829248
Message 17827681
Message 17763010
Message 17761592
Message 17757711
Message 17757657
Message 17724756

As you probably know, I don't think SI should have implemented moderated threads in the first place. But as long as we have them, TP is a good candidate for at least temporary banishment.