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To: Lane3 who wrote (19884)	8/26/2002 9:47:46 AM
From: average joe	Respond to of 21057

In addition to that general conclusion, Rummel asserts that several key propositions about democracy and violence have been "uncovered or verified." Among the more important are the following: "Well established democracies do not make war on and rarely commit lesser violence against each other" (p. 4). "The more two nations are democratic, the less likely war or lesser violence between them" (p. 5). "The more a nation is democratic, the less severe its overall foreign violence" (p. 5). Indeed, Rummel contends that for "theoretical reasons" he "would expect no violence between democracies at all" (p. 101). hawaii.edu

To: Lane3 who wrote (19884)	8/26/2002 9:54:29 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

That's a brilliant piece. This is wonderfully expressed: "To think that democracy boils down to making sure one's decisions can be made popular in retrospect is to reduce the ideal of democracy to competency in marketing." I've never heard of Talbot Brewer and wondered how the WP found him, but I just googled him and he's published a lot. We'll hear from him again. And the thing is, I'm not even sure what I think about Iraq. My feeling is that Baker's plan is about right. I write "feeling" because I know I don't know enough about the genuineness of the threat of WMD from Iraq, or what would be likely to happen after we moved in, to have an actual informed "opinion." Later....