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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (55521)	8/28/2002 1:02:09 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Read the definition of coward. I don't happen to think braveness is particularly positive. Many people considered brave strike me as total depraved homicidal maniacs. Osama would be in that category. Now, where was it I talked well of him?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (55521)	8/28/2002 1:07:56 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

bravery and courage - same thing (dictionary sends you to courage, when you look up bravery) cour·age Pronunciation Key (kûrj, kr-) n. The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery. Are courageous people good? Are they fighting for a good cause? NO- there were courageous Nazis for goodness sake. There are courageous Palestinian terrorists- and they are horrible. But they are certainly filled with the quality of spirit that allows them to face fear- and kill a bunch of people. I think the sooner we realize that, the sooner we will understand them better, and the sooner maybe we can reach a real solution. Redefining the enemy never won any territory, and frequently loses the war, if it puts you out of touch with reality. (IMO)

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (55521)	8/28/2002 8:24:46 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Laz, this is one of those relativly rare times when I support X <g>. Noting a positive quality about someone doesn't mean you think well about them. I could say for example that some dictator was charismatic, or that some very mean aquaitance of mine was physically attractive. Does that mean I think well of them? Tim