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To: marginmike who wrote (51868)	8/29/2002 11:37:47 PM
From: Joan Osland Graffius	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 209892

marginmike, >>This is why Ive been saying that there are many cross curents that are not ading up. I am in reaper's camp where gold will go up when it is expected there will be no return on capital in financial assets. BWDIK, Joan

To: marginmike who wrote (51868)	8/29/2002 11:50:23 PM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Respond to of 209892

man.. you are making tea leaves where none exist... listen to the music and quit working so hard trying to compose it. just a thought.

To: marginmike who wrote (51868)	8/30/2002 12:07:01 AM
From: mishedlo	Respond to of 209892

This is why Ive been saying that there are many cross curents that are not ading up. Good lord I have barking dogs on my mind. Are they howling? If they are what the F are they saying? M

To: marginmike who wrote (51868)	8/30/2002 10:01:34 AM
From: reaper	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 209892

<<The CRB,OIL,GOLD are screaming inflation but TNX and massive overcapacity say NO WAY. >> MM, CRB and OIL are NOT screaming inflation. Oil is screaming conflict in the middle east; if oil was screaming inflation then natural gas would be higher and its not -- natural gas is a primarily domestic commodity and is mostly used in power generation and manufacturing (such as refining aluminum or fertilizer), and the price of natural gas falling despite a SHRINKAGE of supply is screaming deflation. CRB is screaming (i) conflict in the middle east (since 17.6% of the index is energy) and is also screaming (ii) drought in the midwest (17.6% of the index is grains, which are FLYING in price, and 11.8% of the index is livestock, which is also going up in price since grains are a major input). 'soft commodities' (cocoa, coffee, orgage juice, and sugar) are also flying but i can't give an explanation why. look at INDUSTRIAL commodities -- copper, aluminum, natural gas, nickel, to some extent silver, DRAMs in my opinion are an industrial commodity at this point -- prices there are generally FALLING. btw, if you think GOLD and TNX are sending you different signals (as you know i happen to think they are sending the SAME signal, as i think gold is in fact signalling deflation despite the prevailing popular wisdom) then i would side with TNX, since TNX trades the entire cumulative value of the gold market before 10:30am every day. Cheers