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To: Clarksterh who wrote (26294)8/31/2002 10:49:23 AM
From: foundation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 196402
 
re: the lack of technical rigor

Clark,

In my view this is only part of the problem - and perhaps the part that can be most easily rectified.

re: (can) the vendors actually resolve the technical incompatibility issues without getting political?

I think this is the insidious issue... and, in my view, all issues - including and especially conflict resolution - are fundamentally political in committee-based forums, including and especially 3GPP.

3GPP vendors - and especially the powerful, major vendors - fiercely protect their proprietary intellectual property that has been integrated into the standards. And in addition to de facto essential intellectual property, with an evolving standard, vendors are motivated to integrate additional, optional proprietary technology into their individual physical solutions (infrastructure, handsets and software) in order to influence - through successful field application - what may, in evolving standard versions, be injected or perceived as "essential" - or at least functioning.

Also, it is possible, through the integration of additional, optional proprietary technology, for vendors to lock carrier clients into same-vendor upgrades.

So, ironically, competing vendors have multiple vested interests in developing and marketing commercial solutions with additional proprietary content that further exacerbate cross-vendor compatibility issues.

<g>

Ben



To: Clarksterh who wrote (26294)8/31/2002 11:09:56 AM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 196402
 
Clark,

<< Do you know if the 3GPP vendors are even planning to test their pieces of equipment against each other? >>

As always.

A media release on 3GPP GCF by ETSI with a link to the the latest release of test suites (lots more to be written) and a related article by Anritsu staffers:

Message 17875168

Message 17931784

<< Given that I would predict that WCDMA will not be commercially or technically viable for at least another 2 to 3 years. >>

I think you need to anticipate that and that is why the UMTS Forums forecasts for subscriber take up (have been) are so conservative and back end loaded.

- Eric -



To: Clarksterh who wrote (26294)8/31/2002 12:48:22 PM
From: 100cfm  Respond to of 196402
 
Do you know if the 3GPP vendors are even planning to test their pieces of equipment against each other? Given my engineering experience with some of these vendors I would bet that they aren't planning any such rigorous testing and it will only happen after two different networks roll out and they 'discover' that roaming is not possible. Given that I would predict that WCDMA will not be commercially or technically viable for at least another 2 to 3 years.

If you know that and now we know it, I have to beleive that the CTOs of these EU carriers have to or should know it also. Could it be the reason so many carriers are giving up their 3G licenses rather then defering build out.