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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (41608)9/2/2002 7:18:11 PM
From: Elsewhere  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
[Bush:] I don’t give a shit what the Europeans think.

He should say this in public, it would save a lot of discussion time and effort. As I wrote in #reply-17937892 - just get rid of the pretense, it's Imperium Americanum times now.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (41608)9/3/2002 12:06:05 AM
From: SirRealist  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>The generals were worried about whether the kit would work, and even if it did — the final, gut-wrenching fear — would the men fight? Around Christmas 1990, it was hard to find many senior figures in Washington who would reply to both those questions with a confident affirmative.<<

If that's true, I'd say, then and now, the generals and policy makers should get outside of the Beltway more. Even right after Vietnam, I never saw a generation of young soldiers unwilling to follow orders to fight. I suspect Anderson is hypothesizing; if not, our leaders have lost all touch with the real world.

>>Finally, if you do go ahead, then for God’s sake be as quick as possible, and make a thorough job of it — unlike last time.’ <<

Again, I seriously doubt the Saudis think this, because it was SA and other Arab allies, that mandated the half-measures to begin with.

>>If the US backed down now, nobody anywhere would still believe in America’s ability to assert itself.<<

The "said it, gotta do it" argument rises again.

Anderson's preconceptions are so flawed that his analysis is suspect.