' it was confederated in response to threat from the south during the 1860s
Ah, that doesn't seem to square with what I've read of Canadian history. It sounded much more like Canadians had a patch of trouble with the Brits too. And wanted them out. And the Brits decided they didn't want another war over here. Particularly considering that the US, having just finished the Civil War, was armed to the teeth, had lots of experienced soldiers, and probably would have been glad to help out. '
'.. to help themselves', you mean, with that i would agree ... but the rest here, lord love a duck, one wonders what sort of jingoistic pablum they fed y'all in those grade-school regiments ... you had to recite the piece that goes 'i pledge allegiance to the dickheads who run this place, one big militarist party under our our our god not theirs, and let's go shoot us some gooks huh', didn't you ..... geez, where now to start with your education
Well it simply wasn't like that - neither Upper or Lower Canada wanted to see the country lost to the US ... the quebecois because they would be sunk in a sea of english and lose the rights guaranteed to them, the loyalists because they were largely refugees from your revolting activities of the 1770s - you missed that part of my post, it's an important point, that the very founding of this nation was done by survivors of the murder and theft of the armed-to-the-teeth mobocracy developing in the southern thirteen colonies .... they chose another path, that of political evolution, not bloody revolution and genocide of indigenous .... very much similar to the paths to democracy taken by the brits themselves, though in a new-world Americas sort of way, having lots of frontier as potential for their young unlike the auld country .... no question there was always friction between levels of government, that's always the case anywhere, but in no way ever did any significant portion of the populace desire to be taken by the US .... if they had, we would have been lost in a flash, there has always been greed well beyond hegemonic among elements of the US ruling cliques, legion are the statements by politicians there that they would take this country, many are the times they tried to make traitors among us to help them, to no avail ... to date
An example - August 1914 ... we had among the highest spontaneous sign-up to the forces of any british country ... voluntary, of their own free will ... and yes, sucked into the propaganda of it all, the dreams of glory ... but not, note, your Old Glory .... [here again, individuals of US origin joined us, while their rulers sat back and got rich from the conflict, for this and many other actions we know there are among you those of honour]
The embassy thing ... it is good that you remember that ... we would do it again in a minute when necessary, as would your diplomats for us, btw ... i've met a very few of them, they tended not to be compulsive gook-shooters and land-mine planters, far as i could tell, seemed like quite reasonable people ... the ugly ones, i think, are in other agencies, sometimes planted among the diplomats, but distinct from their kind
'You'd be speaking Russian now if it weren't for the US. Or, worse, you'd be a glowing slag heap.'
Still cranking up the cold war propaganda, are we .... well i don't think the russians ever would have found it in their interest to nuke us .... it took two to tango in all that stupidity, don't forget the role of the US militarists in devastating many a non-combatant village playing with weapons in all their favourite little proxy wars .... bring me a russian who defends their demented generals and i'll tear a strip off him too, but basically the cold war is over a long time, we of the g.w.n. won it, just about exactly thirty years ago today ... here's the video - blackwelltoons.tripod.com |
