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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TigerPaw who wrote (293559)	9/5/2002 7:56:44 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

The California energy problems started in the summer of 2000. Long before Bush became president.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (293559)	9/5/2002 9:17:09 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself? re:The real question is who was the President Select! On December 8, 2000 the Florida Supreme Court ordered a Recount in Florida (Gore vs. Harris). This means, on Dec 8th, Al Gore was the "President Select" (at least, of the Florida State Supreme Court). By the way, on December 8, 2000, Bill Clinton was President of the United States of America.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (293559)	9/5/2002 10:23:15 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

Doesn't it get stuffy having your head up your butt like that....????

To: TigerPaw who wrote (293559)	9/5/2002 11:32:02 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

So your story is that the President-Elect gets to tell federal departments what to do before he's inaugurated? This is your story? You really want to stick to it? You're dumber than I thought. And that was dumber than a sack of rocks. Keep it though. You do A REAL GOOD JOB of convincing people we're right.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (293559)	9/6/2002 1:16:32 AM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

What a surprise we have here!!! LOL MoD rejects fears over defence sell-off Philip Pank and agencies Thursday September 5, 2002 Ministers today defended plans to sell part of the defence research industry to a US-based company that has several former international leaders on its payroll. George Bush senior, his former secretary of state James Baker, the former prime minister John Major and many other figures from international big business and politics are employed by Carlyle Group, a US-based private equity and defence group. The government has dismissed union fears that the British national interest may be compromised by the influence of diverse overseas lobbyists linked to the company. It announced earlier this week that Carlyle was the preferred bidder to take over its research and technology division, Qinetiq. The former defence research agency has developed missile-tracking software, radar technology and other defence systems The announcement immediately raised concerns that national defence research may be subjected to increasing influence from overseas interests, notably the US arms lobby. Fiona Draper of the trade union Prospect, which represents scientists at Qinetiq, said: "The fact that they are a foreign company will obviously exacerbate my members concerns, given Carlyle's fairly opaque structure, there must be concerns over whether undue influence may be brought to bear which may not be in Britain's interest." She told BBC radio: "I do understand that in the past at least they have had investors from 'interesting' areas of the world, shall we say." In addition to the list of influential names from US politics, the company has been linked to the Saudi royal family and until last year maintained links with the half-brother of Osama bin Laden. However, the defence minister, Lewis Moonie, insisted today that Britain's national interest would not be compromised by the partial sale of the agency. "It is very important that half truths and shades like that should not be allowed to cloud the name of a respectable company and one we have investigated in great detail, as we have any other company with who we would be going into partnership," he said. "I can assure you that we have gone into this in very great detail and anything of a sensitive nature will not be exposed to foreign eyes." The government is selling off a significant stake in the agency, having dropped plans to float the company on the stock market earlier this year. Like other private equity groups, Carlyle has a history of taking short-term stakes in companies. Industry observers have predicted that the company would be likely to prepare QinetiQ for full sell-off within five years. The previous Conservative government shied away from full-blown privatisation of the agency. guardian.co.uk